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K_B_G Regular user 136 Posts	Posted: Jan 23, 2004 10:19 am 0 Hey everyone I saw this one hand vanish at the end of one guys three fly routine. At first I was completly taken back. Then After I while I figured out the mechanics and it is ingenious. I am not sure if I am liable to explain them or not so I wont. Basically you flick the coin in the air it lands on your open palm up hand. You close it for a second then make a throwing action and the coin is gone. The hand is open with fingers apart and nothing in palm All I can say is the final resting place of the coin is clipped parallel to the floor by the thrid finger. Any idea who invented this and where to find proper instruction on it. Thanks Kyle
Michael Rubinstein V.I.P. 4839 Posts	Posted: Jan 23, 2004 12:18 pm 0 I believe you are talking about a bluff vanish where the coin ends up in Geoff Latta's nowhere palm. You may be performing Gary Kurtz's bluff vanish. Conviction Prediction 2.0 is now out! Inquire for ordering information at rubinsteindvm@aol.com Promo: https://youtu.be/PvhQbAVeQKM?si=oXOHGoT-awykN1G2
K_B_G Regular user 136 Posts	Posted: Jan 23, 2004 01:16 pm 0 Thanks Michael One day I hope to buy some of your dvd's. Right now though I am just a beginer. you are probably right though as he said his routine was based on Kurtz and Wilson. Thanks Kyle
Geoff Latta Regular user New York 158 Posts	Posted: Jan 23, 2004 01:42 pm 0 The vanish isn't Gary's any more than the concealment is. It's the most basic use of the position, and goes back almost thirty years. It's never been properly published. Best, Geoff "There is a thin line between genius and insanity. I have erased this line." --Oscar Levant
Eric Grossman Elite user St. Louis, MO 429 Posts	Posted: Jan 23, 2004 02:34 pm 0 Geoff, I was front and center at your lecture (WMS). Wow, lots of great stuff. I was the volunteer for your card sandwich routine. Anyway, you gave me a great psychological tip for the end of a shell coins across routine, and I just want to say thanks to you. I've worked on your Nowhere palm, and the best way for me to get into it, is from finger palm. I pull back my third finger and pivot the coin into place. Since I've never seen you do it, I wonder what technique you use. Looking forward to your book, Eric Grossman family/magic/music/life
perlimpinpin Regular user 103 Posts	Posted: Jan 23, 2004 04:21 pm 0 From the description you gave Kyle I initially thought it might be a Tenkai/Goshman Pinch. Geoff, I'm happy to understand there's a book in the works ! When might it be available ? Best regards Daniel
Michael Rubinstein V.I.P. 4839 Posts	Posted: Jan 24, 2004 01:14 am 0 Thanks Geoff, for correcting the credit. I knew Kurtz used your concealment without your permission, but I wasn't sure about the move he used. Conviction Prediction 2.0 is now out! Inquire for ordering information at rubinsteindvm@aol.com Promo: https://youtu.be/PvhQbAVeQKM?si=oXOHGoT-awykN1G2
Decker Loyal user Hades 211 Posts	Posted: Jan 24, 2004 12:18 pm 0 Quote: On 2004-01-23 11:21, perlimpinpin wrote: From the description you gave Kyle I initially thought it might be a Tenkai/Goshman Pinch. Geoff, I'm happy to understand there's a book in the works ! When might it be available ? Best regards Daniel There have been rumors about this for a couple years I think... isn't Minch supposed to publish it? "He had alot to say... He had alot of nothing to say..." --MJK
Geoff Latta Regular user New York 158 Posts	Posted: Jan 24, 2004 07:25 pm 0 Quote: On 2004-01-23 09:34, Eric Grossman wrote: Geoff, I was front and center at your lecture (WMS). Wow, lots of great stuff. I was the volunteer for your card sandwich routine. Anyway, you gave me a great psychological tip for the end of a shell coins across routine, and I just want to say thanks to you. I've worked on your Nowhere palm, and the best way for me to get into it, is from finger palm. I pull back my third finger and pivot the coin into place. Since I've never seen you do it, I wonder what technique you use. Looking forward to your book, Eric Grossman Eric, Thanks for helping at the lecture. I get into it a number of ways, but the most common are from finger palm: rotate in into position with the thumb (good when you are supposedly holding an "invisible" coin, as in the slow-motion coin vanish) and by curling the third finger and flexing the second (you have to be a bit double-jointed for this) so that the coin is pulled into Nowhere Palm, rolling into position around the the second finger. Minor adjustments can be made with the thumb, if necessary, in a gesture. Hope this helps, Best, Geoff Quote: On 2004-01-24 07:18, Decker wrote: Quote: On 2004-01-23 11:21, perlimpinpin wrote: From the description you gave Kyle I initially thought it might be a Tenkai/Goshman Pinch. Geoff, I'm happy to understand there's a book in the works ! When might it be available ? Best regards Daniel There have been rumors about this for a couple years I think... isn't Minch supposed to publish it? Yes, Stephen Minch is the publisher, if I ever get the *** thing done. Best, Geoff Quote: On 2004-01-23 11:21, perlimpinpin wrote: From the description you gave Kyle I initially thought it might be a Tenkai/Goshman Pinch. Geoff, I'm happy to understand there's a book in the works ! When might it be available ? Best regards Daniel I'm trying for the first volume to be out by this fall. We'll see. Best, Geoff "There is a thin line between genius and insanity. I have erased this line." --Oscar Levant
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