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OK, we're going to prove Godwin's law quickly this time with the op.

http://dailycaller.com/2014/09/11/sixth-......ignment/

"Sixth Graders Asked To Compare Bush And Hitler In Homework Assignment" (using a Venn Diagram no less).
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The teacher admits to extremely poor judgment and short sightedness and will apologize to students. The school will also send a letter home to families explaining the incident and offering to address any additional questions should they arise.


This issue sounds like it is being resolved. If the teacher stated that they didn't do anything wrong that would be a discussion on itself. Is it the incident or the mindset that is being targeted in this thread?
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Why not both?
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Because not everything has to be judged by public opinion. Meaning, a daily outrage fix kind of thing.
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The teacher admits to extremely poor judgment and short sightedness and will apologize to students. The school will also send a letter home to families explaining the incident and offering to address any additional questions should they arise.


This issue sounds like it is being resolved. If the teacher stated that they didn't do anything wrong that would be a discussion on itself. Is it the incident or the mindset that is being targeted in this thread?


"Resolved" meaning suffering no consequences for "an egregious mistake."

Well, I guess that makes sense. It's not like it was Obama and Hitler.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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On Sep 11, 2014, Salguod Nairb wrote:
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The teacher admits to extremely poor judgment and short sightedness and will apologize to students. The school will also send a letter home to families explaining the incident and offering to address any additional questions should they arise.


This issue sounds like it is being resolved. If the teacher stated that they didn't do anything wrong that would be a discussion on itself. Is it the incident or the mindset that is being targeted in this thread?


"Resolved" meaning suffering no consequences for "an egregious mistake."

Well, I guess that makes sense. It's not like it was Obama and Hitler.


If Obama goes forward with an attack on ISIS, perhaps that would be a reasonable assignment.

While I would never have students do such an assignment (certainly not framed the way it was) it is fair to compare and contrast reasons for going to war, and leadership during war. The assignment as presented in the article would give plenty of leeway for students to express a wide range of opinions and then to defend them. For some, the similarities will be tiny and trivial, for others, they may be more substantial.

Badly framed (at least as it appears in the article) but comparing and contrasting is a very good exercise.
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Because not everything has to be judged by public opinion. Meaning, a daily outrage fix kind of thing.



You have read around here a bit right?
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Rockwall,
You missing the usual liberals here, wonder why?

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Yes, but for once I thought we could not argue about if the paint is wet. I'm all for a good debate but most of the time threads like these are just meant to poke the hornets nest and run. (Not an accusation Rockwall, thus my post about clarification)

Resolved? Yes. They are dealing with it locally. It may be reopened for closer scrutiny, but it sounds like they are dealing with it; so there is no need for the full weight of the internet to come crashing down.

If I was involved I would be raising holy hell, but I'm not and apologies are being issued - locally.
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Why the fuss about Ferguson when it's being resolved, i.e. "handled locally"?
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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The teacher admits to extremely poor judgment and short sightedness and will apologize to students. The school will also send a letter home to families explaining the incident and offering to address any additional questions should they arise.


This issue sounds like it is being resolved. If the teacher stated that they didn't do anything wrong that would be a discussion on itself. Is it the incident or the mindset that is being targeted in this thread?


"Resolved" meaning suffering no consequences for "an egregious mistake."

Well, I guess that makes sense. It's not like it was Obama and Hitler.


If Obama goes forward with an attack on ISIS, perhaps that would be a reasonable assignment.

While I would never have students do such an assignment (certainly not framed the way it was) it is fair to compare and contrast reasons for going to war, and leadership during war. The assignment as presented in the article would give plenty of leeway for students to express a wide range of opinions and then to defend them. For some, the similarities will be tiny and trivial, for others, they may be more substantial.

Badly framed (at least as it appears in the article) but comparing and contrasting is a very good exercise.


You should inform the school district of this; they think it was an egregious mistake.

Here south of the (U.S.-Canada) border, FYI, such an assignment involving Obama - ISIS attack or not - would be roundly condemned as racist.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
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Comparing and contrasting is an excellent exercise for students. I would expect most students to find the Hitler-Bush assignment to provide a huge number of contrasts and only a couple of similarities.



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It's the sorry state of American public education that the district believes this excellent exercise was an egregious mistake.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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It's the sorry state of American public education that the district believes this excellent exercise was an egregious mistake.


LOL we still don't know if it was an excellent exercise, a stupidly ham-fisted partisan exercise, or just an ill-considered one.

I know I'd never frame the question like that for 6th-grade.

I'd really love to see the two readings that the students were to use.
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats
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On Sep 11, 2014, Salguod Nairb wrote:
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The teacher admits to extremely poor judgment and short sightedness and will apologize to students. The school will also send a letter home to families explaining the incident and offering to address any additional questions should they arise.


This issue sounds like it is being resolved. If the teacher stated that they didn't do anything wrong that would be a discussion on itself. Is it the incident or the mindset that is being targeted in this thread?


"Resolved" meaning suffering no consequences for "an egregious mistake."

Well, I guess that makes sense. It's not like it was Obama and Hitler.


No. The tea party made that comparison numerous times during the past elections. Remember the pictures?
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Yes, and I remember the response to it. Well, let me backtrack. I remember some Tea Party members making the comparison. Did "The Democratic Party" compare Bush to Hitler?
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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Back to the main topic. Anybody know how to get a hold of the two readings?
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats
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I'm more curious to find out what the next day's planned activity was!
"Torture doesn't work" lol
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I'm more curious to find out what the next day's planned activity was!


That's my number two question!
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats
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I really appreciate how magnanimous some of you are in giving the teacher the benefit of the doubt. I do admit though, that I strongly suspect you wouldn't be nearly as magnanimous if, as Lobowolf points out, a teacher asked students to compare and contrast Obama with Hitler. I just don't quite think you would be nearly so forgiving.

As to whether it was, "a stupidly ham-fisted partisan exercise" as Magnus questions, I think if you read the entire article you'll get a hint.

"Now that we have read about two men of power who abused their power in various ways, we will compare and contrast them and their actions."
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