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ed rhodes![]() Inner circle Rhode Island 2806 Posts ![]() |
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On Sep 16, 2014, RNK wrote: You had the bar lower than he did. But it was still physical violence as a deterrent.
"All the world's a stage, but the play is badly cast!" - Oscar Wilde
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LobowolfXXX![]() Inner circle La Famiglia 1199 Posts ![]() |
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On Sep 16, 2014, RNK wrote: Would one counter-example change your mind?
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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RNK![]() Inner circle 6063 Posts ![]() |
No. I was a product of being spanked and love my parents dearly. I have no emotional/mental scars because of it. As a matter of fact- I am glad they did it- it made me the person who I am today- I have my skeletons in my closet as we all do but all in all God has blessed me with a great life and family. My thoughts are, with the proper interaction and display of affection with your child after spanking- no ill-effects will be left with him/her. Meaning- after they calm down you sit with them and explain what just went down and why things happened the way they did and how MUCH you LOVE them and that spanking is something you do not like to do because you LOVE them so much. "But, when you don't listen to mommy and daddy and do bad things there is consequences you have to face". It doesn't take long for the child to get the right picture and understand- hence the spanking really ends up being a deterrent after a few spanks. Then you only have to mention the words, "Do I have to get the spatula?" And let me tell you- my kids straiten up very fast. If you do it right, you really don't have to spank the kids but a few times then they get the picture FAST. As a matter of fact- my 7 and 10 year old, I don't even have to threaten with the spatula anymore- they understand what is expected of them in terms of behavior and respect for others and their property. My three and a half year old is to the point where I do not have to spank him- he to understands and all I have to do when he is acting up is mention the "word" and he straitens up quick. As a matter of fact, we are to the point where I do not have to scream or yell- I calmly say, "I asked you nicely to please stop or don't do that, now do I have to get the spatula?" And his answer is always, "No. OK Daddy. I won't do that". And then he comes and runs into my arms for a big hug! And I then tell him what a good boy he is by listening to me and how much I love him!
I don't have to sit through temper fits or any screaming by them- after a few swats- they understand- then everything is calmly sorted out because they KNOW the consequences for not listening and being bad. RNK |
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Ray Tupper.![]() Special user NG16. 749 Posts ![]() |
A firm voice is as much, if not more, of a deterrent than the palm of a hand.
I'm a parent with a twenty year old who won't have to belt her kids either, because she knows how to mete out punishment without striking. The thought that a grown adult has to beat/spank (means the same, just sugar coated)a child to gain the level of behaviour that that person requires is abhorrent to me. Pick on someone your own size!
What do we want?
A cure for tourettes! When do we want it? C*nt! |
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HudsonView![]() New user 98 Posts ![]() |
It depends on the age of the child. A 2 year old who is caught biting gets a swat on the rear to let them know the consequences of their actions. If you are paddling your kid past the age of 3 however, you need to learn some parenting skills. The best punishment, I found, having raised two sucessful and caring children, is to remove things they love: toys, games, computers, tv. Eventually they get the message.
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tommy![]() Eternal Order Devil’s Island 16352 Posts ![]() |
I'm the man!
My grandson, he asked me if I wanted to see something today. He took off his shirt, lifted his arms and said “I'm the man!” It seems he now has a few arm pit hairs. So these people, who hit children, beware, beware the thing that is comming, as these kids, they get big as time goes by and when they do, they will try it out with you.
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
Tommy |
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ed rhodes![]() Inner circle Rhode Island 2806 Posts ![]() |
I love this t-shirt! But we've seen I have an odd sense of humor;
http://www.badideatshirts.com/DONT-HIT-K......P25.aspx
"All the world's a stage, but the play is badly cast!" - Oscar Wilde
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Pecan_Creek![]() Veteran user The Nation of TEXAS! 323 Posts ![]() |
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On Sep 16, 2014, RNK wrote: Kind of the same way North Korean citizens are so well behaved, huh? |
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RNK![]() Inner circle 6063 Posts ![]() |
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On Sep 17, 2014, Ray Tupper. wrote: LOL. Um. Ok. Read the bible and see what it says about spanking. Spanking is NOT beating. How would you know anything about it since you never did it as you claimed. |
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RNK![]() Inner circle 6063 Posts ![]() |
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On Sep 17, 2014, tommy wrote: I was spanked as a kid (not beat)- I would NEVER raise a hand to my parents and the thought never even crossed my mind. Why? Because of the overshadowing love my parents shed on us growing up in. Because of the quality time they spent with us playing and explaining life and it's nuances. The problem therein lies when a parent thinks that just by spanking their kid that they will learn and stop being bad. This is false. It takes a lot more time and investment as doing the previously mentioned things to raise a child to the best of your ability so when they turn 18 they can as the BIG GUY states, "Spread their wings and fly"! |
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Pecan_Creek![]() Veteran user The Nation of TEXAS! 323 Posts ![]() |
I always get my parenting advice from books written in the stone age.
Yup, Everthing the human race needs to know was discovered prior to the year 50! |
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Pakar Ilusi![]() Inner circle 5718 Posts ![]() |
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On Sep 18, 2014, Pecan_Creek wrote: ![]()
"Dreams aren't a matter of Chance but a matter of Choice." -DC-
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RNK![]() Inner circle 6063 Posts ![]() |
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On Sep 18, 2014, Pecan_Creek wrote: Don't know- never made it to North Korea to see first hand how the kids act? Have you made it over there to see first hand? |
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Pecan_Creek![]() Veteran user The Nation of TEXAS! 323 Posts ![]() |
No. but I have faith that the majority citizens in a fascist dictatorship are throughly brainwashed and frightened in to total submission. Of course I got this from reading books written within the last 80 years , so I could be competely misinformed.
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RNK![]() Inner circle 6063 Posts ![]() |
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On Sep 18, 2014, Pecan_Creek wrote: So what's your statement have to do with my boys being respectful boys that listen who do not cause trouble and are well liked by their teachers? |
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Dannydoyle![]() Eternal Order 20852 Posts ![]() |
Why has the mode of communication from some become angry sarcasm and condescending tones?
From both sides mind you.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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Pecan_Creek![]() Veteran user The Nation of TEXAS! 323 Posts ![]() |
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On Sep 18, 2014, RNK wrote: Real simple... if you beat and terrorize them into submission , of course they are well behaved. I'm talking about the psychological terrorism of organized religion as well as the physical beatings. |
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NYCTwister![]() Loyal user 267 Posts ![]() |
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On Sep 19, 2014, Pecan_Creek wrote: And down the rabbit hole we go.
If you need fear to enforce your beliefs, then your beliefs are worthless.
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stoneunhinged![]() Inner circle 3067 Posts ![]() |
A spatula?
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NYCTwister![]() Loyal user 267 Posts ![]() |
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On Sep 19, 2014, stoneunhinged wrote: : a kitchen tool that has a handle which is bent upward and a wide, thin blade used for lifting and turning foods on a hot surface : a kitchen tool that has a long handle and short, soft blade and that is used especially for mixing, spreading, etc. : a kitchen tool similar to a knife that has a flexible blade and that is used for mixing, spreading, etc.
If you need fear to enforce your beliefs, then your beliefs are worthless.
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