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On Sep 18, 2014, LobowolfXXX wrote: Really? News to me. I did once read about a war where a people in a settler nation tried to exterminate another people, then went on to overthrow their own oppressive overseas government. They created what they called a Republic. That Republic allowed certain rich white men to consolidate their own power. Later, the principle of one dollar, one vote was de facto enshrined. But democracy? Please, don't make me laugh.
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
Democracy ... two wolves and a sheep deciding what's for lunch ... Pure democracy is insane ... It means that 51% of the people can vote to kill the other 49% and take everything they own .... We live in a Republic ..That gives rights to everyone, despite the shenanigans of everyone else. Our constitution is what allowed slaves to be free and women to vote. We live in a Republic brothers and sisters... never forget that!
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
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On Sep 19, 2014, landmark wrote: Are you not the self described socialist? I must have you confused with someone else if not sorry.
Danny Doyle
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Pakar Ilusi Inner circle 5777 Posts |
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On Sep 18, 2014, Slim King wrote: No.
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
In the meantime the USA will give the mercenaries another $500,000,000. While the French start the bombing.
People has many meanings.
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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Pecan_Creek Veteran user The Nation of TEXAS! 323 Posts |
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On Sep 19, 2014, Dannydoyle wrote: Umm, Socialism is an economic system, Democracy is a political one. They aren't mutually exclusive. |
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
Compatibility, a merge of the two eh? Umm. Lets go back in the writings of Lenin. Lenin said the dictatorship will last about 70 years and then we shall merge into the West. The system that will come out of it will be not quite be capitalist nor quite socialist. Alvin Toffler's book "The Third Wave" is all about, the coming together of the two systems. Read Gorbachev's last speech to the politburo he said "you'll hear that communism is dead. Don't believe it. We're simply moving into the next phase." What he's talking about the New World Order – it's actually global socialism, a globalist fascist system at the top running the whole kit-and-caboodle. The media which all owned by the globalists and altogether attack you government left right and centre. The net effect is national government look incompetent and the solution is?
i,e Nation states cause some of our biggest problems, from civil war to climate inaction. Science suggests there are better ways to run a planet Try, for a moment, to envisage a world without countries. Imagine a map not divided into neat, coloured patches, each with clear borders, governments, laws. Try to describe anything our society does – trade, travel, science, sport, maintaining peace and security – without mentioning countries. Try to describe yourself: you have a right to at least one nationality, and the right to change it, but not the right to have none. - New Scientist http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22......ies.html
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
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On Sep 19, 2014, Pecan_Creek wrote: Socialism is not a political philisophy? The good people at Wiki seem confused. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism Perhaps you should clear it up for them. While it may have @any flavors it is indeed a political movement. But by all means continue the condescending superior attitude if it makes you feel like the smartest guy in the room.
Danny Doyle
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
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On Sep 19, 2014, Dannydoyle wrote: And you call yourself a capitalist? I must have confused you with someone else if not sorry. The first day in 7th grade Social Studies class back in JHS 240 Mr. Anger (that was his name, but we thought he was cool since he drove a red sports car) told us, "If there's one thing I want you to learn this year and nothing else, it's that democracy and dictatorships are political systems, and capitalism and communism are economic systems." I am a democratic socialist as are many folks around the world. Democracy being the political system I favor, and Syndicalism socialism (i.e. worker control of businesses) the economic system. I don't believe we've seen a democracy in this world yet--govt of the people, by the people, for the people-- (despite how countries might self-describe), whether capitalist or socialist. I don't believe that the structures of capitalism allow for democracy; inevitably, I believe, monied interests will grab hold of the political apparatus for their own ends. We can see how that has happened in all the Western capitalist nations. Whether worker ownership of the economy will allow for democracy remains to be seen. It has never been tried yet. The self-described socialist countries were never worker run. Soviet Communist Party policy around the world for a long time was to eschew real syndicalism as the betrayed anarchists in Spain found out during the Spanish Civil War. Summary: I don't believe that capitalism is compatible with democracy; it remains an open question whether democracy is compatible with some form of socialism. In any event, try talking to people about democracy from a very fundamental viewpoint, and you'll find all kinds of criticism about it, starting from Plato to Shakespeare to the founders of the US. Democracy ain't popular.
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
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On Sep 18, 2014, RNK wrote: If you were saying my comment ws not very humorous, I agree; I wasn't trying to be humorous there. If you were saying that your remark was meant to be humorous, then I agree. It was funny in a Windows 8 kind of way.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
I never said we live in a democracy. We have a representative republic. So lets be clear. This is not compatible wi
Communism and socialism are not necessarily interchangeable. One flaw in your thinking. There are money interests in ANY form of government or economic system.
Danny Doyle
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
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On Sep 19, 2014, Pakar Ilusi wrote: My point .... No one does ... It's NOT the answer .. We've had 10 years to dig a hole in water .. It doesn't work. So Obama's answer is to do it more..... INSANE
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rockwall Special user 762 Posts |
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On Sep 19, 2014, landmark wrote: I think a good idea would be for you and all of the rest of the Syndicalism Socialists to band together, start your own businesses owned by all the workers and compete with the rest of the world. Or do you prefer to just steal existing businesses from the current owners? |
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
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On Sep 19, 2014, Dannydoyle wrote: And yet some people want us to bring "democracy" to other places. What they really mean is, let's impose some system, not really important what, that allows us to exploit your resources, thanks, have a nice day, and here are some bombs.
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts |
Let's not be goofy here. While every instantiation of democracy has deeply problematic features, it hardly follows that each is a "non-democracy".
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats |
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
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On Sep 19, 2014, Magnus Eisengrim wrote: Remember, Landmark has also been quite critical of Obama, so perhaps he's getting some goofy ideas from Fox News.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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rockwall Special user 762 Posts |
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lunatik Inner circle 3225 Posts |
Once the attacks start here on U.S. soil, our walmarts, our malls, our parks, our grocery stores, will everyone here be so adamant in not letting the gov't intrude on some of our rights or will ya'll just want the attacks to multiply and take more and more lives. At what point does a liberal break and let the bad guys be stopped, saving lives?
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
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On Sep 19, 2014, Magnus Eisengrim wrote: I disagree, John. As the waiter said the customer, How much poison in your coffee would you like with that sir? What's the matter, you don't like coffee? No; there have been no democratic nation-states that I have been aware of. Some democratic institutions (juries), some democratic organizations, some democratic workplaces, some democratic households. But thus far, no democratic countries. Frankly, there's not that much interest from the elites.
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On Sep 19, 2014, lunatik wrote: fear, fear, fear, fear, cower, buy, buy, fear, fear, cower, fear, fear, buy, fear, fear fear. Thanks, message received.
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