I was wondering if anyone knew what kind of magic pad ellusionist use to sell. I bought a black magic pad from them a few years back and it was the best pad for me. I recently just ordered one from them and got a VDF pad which is ok but not close to what I had gotten from them before. I know this is a long shot but does anyone know what kind of or the name of the pads they use to sell at ellusionist.com. Any help would be great, thank you.

I can't help you but I will say hat I'm very pleased with my Trevor Duffy mat.

I'm assuming you've checked the bottom of your old mat to see if there was a tag of some sort to help identify it.

You might try just asking Ellusionist. Try and pinpoint the year.

-Mary Mowder

I can't help but I can sympathize. Getting used to something and then not having it sucks.

Yes I checked the bottom and there is nothing, one more thing that may help with maybe a different mat. The mat I have is 14x8 and it feels a lot softer and more velvety than the vdf mat that anyone have any recommendations on a mat? I was looking at Patrick's mats.
Thanks

Posted: Sep 29, 2014 01:34 pm Went ahead and going to try a pad from Patrick after reading all the great reviews.

You won't be disappointed.

I'd say Patrick's mats are firm but once you get used to it you'll be fine.

Keep it rolled or flat and don't bend it or leave sharp items on it.
A little care in storage and it will last for years. It will never separate as other mats do.

-Mary Mowder

NO! Do not store any mat rolled!

Yea rolled is not the best idea.

I concede that flat is the best by far.

-Mary

I always try to keep them flat only roll them when traveling. Thank you all for the help.