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Phil
I reread your post and a desire to restart the thread. I thought some more about it and considered a more in depth analysis of what Buddha Papers is about. On the surface, to me, it is about a simple trick that is more of a puzzle than anything else. My experience with Karrell Fox suggests there is more. Perhaps this is what you are after. The basic concept of the effect can be expanded either emotionally or magically. To whit, I came up with the following.

The performer comes out with a packet of paper. He says he found it in his family’s old farm house in a trunk in the attic. The paper looks old and has a heavy sent of perfume. The paper of three layers is opened to reveal a flattened stiff flower. The performer says it was saved by his great grandmother. Then the performer talks of his great grandfather that studied time travel. Anyway: something along that line. The flattened flower is replaced back into the nest of folded papers. The unit is placed before a spectator and asked to hold it down with a finger. A few magic words are spoken and the spectator is asked to open the papers. On doing so, a picture from days past is found in the innermost paper showing a woman holding a flower. Ostensibly, it is a picture of the flower initially shown.

Doing this is easily within the capabilities of the readers of this forum. Phil; is this in the direction you were thinking?

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Hi Al,

My post was specifically focused on the "Pursepose" effect in The Phoenix. It is intended to catch those laymen (and maybe a few magi too) who know how the effect works. You end clean in the "Pursepose" effect. Since then I have done more research/reading and have seen ways to add patter such as you suggest (to use different items that "reconfigure" themselves in various ways) that will take the heat off the paper and onto the "reconfigured" items. Of course any one who knows the secret won't be fooled in those cases either... unless the papers are augmented with the handling described in "The Phoenix." Putting all the above together (Interesting patter/presentations, transformations -- such as you suggest -- and the extra something that allows you to end clean and leave all to be examined) ought to make it a useful and entertaining effect, IMO.

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Phil
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As a postscript I should add that the "Pursepose" extra something is also an "ever so sleighty" effect.

Also I reread the "Pursepose" article and I realize my intended use to end clean is in addition to the sucker version described therein.... both effects can be done with the extra apparatus described in the article.
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I enjoyed perusing this thread a lot. I have a lot of love for the humble Buddha papers!

I used the Buddha papers for several years in my Ren Faire act. It started as a lazy "throw away" trick towards the beginning of the act, but *** if it ever failed to get a reaction WAY out of proportion to the actual effect. I was just astounded.

This ancient trick that had been relegated to the "el cheapo kids magic kits" was just killing it. Every time. Truly, it's all in the presentation; and ANY trick is a "new trick" if the audience has never seen it before!

Now, I f I had only thought to making/repackaging these with my own brand name and pulling in some extra cash via the side hustle. Live and Learn...
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Incidentally, to answer the "question" of the original thread, I would use the principle of the paddle move and have the larger motion of lifting the packet up for closer inspection as a ruse to cover the smaller action of flipping the packet over in my hand.

I say with absolutely no hubris (it's the bloody Buddha papers, after all) that I was never caught in the act.
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I have pitched the Buddha Papers in the past, along with the Svengali Deck and the Magic Worms. The papers were not as strong a seller as either of the other two items, but that could have just been the fault of a weak pitch and/or weak routine.

I started by using the Royal Magic (Fun, Inc.) papers, which were of good quality and came attractively packaged, but then switched to Robbins E-Z Magic stuff instead. The quality was the same but the price was considerably less.

I used a variation of the #2 method. Right before the turnover, I would take the packet off the table, hold it in the air in a vertical position, and patter for a bit. Then it was a simple matter to replace the packet on the table with the correct side up, and nobody ever caught the move. It was natural, easy and didn't require any fast or fancy moves. SETH
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@Sethb, do you pitch at the Jersey Shore somewhere?
I vacation there every couple of years, and I might get back there this year or next...
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Gaddy --- I used to pitch in Sea Isle City, Cape May, Mays Landing, Woodbine, Somers Point, Linwood, Northfield, Absecon and a few other places in South Jersey. I was a real "40-miler," as the old vaudeville term says.

But I stopped a couple of years ago, due to arthritis in the feet -- it's tough when you're standing up for 6+ hours at a clip! I thank the late Don Driver for helping to get me into the pitch business, and steering me in all the right directions. It was great fun while it lasted, and I also made a few bucks to boot . . . SETH
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Oh, how I love Cape May! Such a beautiful place!

Actually, this is the first I heard that Don passed away.

I mean, he was sick for a long time, and while he recovered briefly... I had been off the Magic Café for quite a while, and well, we all knew it was only a matter of time.

I learned a lot from his videos and conversing with him on the Magic Café. He'll be missed, but his legacy lives on.
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Don was a great guy, a true gentleman, and very generous with his time. He was always willing to share information and make suggestions to solve problems or issues. And as I discovered in more than one instance, you ignored his advice at your own peril!

But I believe his pitch tape is still around and available, so there will always be someone to learn his wonderful Svengali Pitch! And a lot of his posts are still here under the "Step Right Up" section of the Magic Café. SETH
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Quote:
On Nov 14, 2014, Kabbalah wrote:
If you want to screw with your magician friends at your next magic meeting, do "Hen" Fetsch's Buddha's Coin from Bobo's Modern Coin Magic, pp. 252-253.

This effect uses ungimmicked papers.


I've performed this version and love it...
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Quote:
On Nov 14, 2014, Kabbalah wrote:
If you want to screw with your magician friends at your next magic meeting, do "Hen" Fetsch's Buddha's Coin from Bobo's Modern Coin Magic, pp. 252-253.

This effect uses ungimmicked papers.


Just made some ungimmicked papers and am going to spring this at the next magic fellowship. Thanks Kabbalah!

Phil
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