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Lawrence O
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@ Sashac

It's not just yestereday that psychology has uncovered that in each of us there are life impulses and death impulses. Under the death impulses are classified the impulse of domination and includes the craving for crude sexuality without love, raping, killing etc.
Now because this impulse is in each of us, we, slowly, developped the notion of being "civilized": this means focusing on life impulses rather than death impulses.
You underline the success of your performance of the negative type. No one will disagree with you on this and of the rebookings. If I'm pushing your statement to the extreme, I would find a justification in the fact that some fundamentalists are cutting the throats of people or burn them alive in a cage because terror is fascinating and that it, obviously, generates rebookings.
So you may do whatever you want like Eric Ross can write whatever he wants ("I'm Charlie") but you will find a hard time to convince lots of people that it's "good magic"... Actually I would dare to claim that what remains from such an approach is just the social transgression from being civilized and nothing about the "magic" that it was disguised into.

Now please just avoid using the word "style" for performer using this "type" of deceptions and to qualifiy as "light" something that is just crude and "heavy"
Under his Phrygian cap King Midas had donkey's ears... until he tried to make the donkey's ears a fashion at his court

@ w_s_anderson and paisa23
You are, as soldiers, the representants of a better and more civilized world which is under attack by less "civilized" social groups. You are representing our values and you are defending them. I wish to salute you here and express gratitude. We know that because you are at the border of violence and death, the strain is great on the brave representants of our civilized and democratic world. What our soldiers endure is unarguably very demanding physically and hard psychologically but they still protect our values and what such values have to offer as best to the rest of the world.

So when our soldiers are resting, it is understandbale that they need something "light" to compensate for their "heavy" tasks.

But "light" means GOOD magic that takes them above and away from harshness, not cheap heavy magic that balances the heavy stuff they have to live along on a daily basis. We all know that the physical danger and proximity to atrocities generates a natural need for thinking of something else. If a performance of magic is really good, its lightness will distract them more than any attempt to balance their daily "heavy" situations with "heavy" magical stuff that doesn't fit the values they defend when they are allowed to put their guns down.

So yes we can entertain our soldiers with hookers, gambling, alcohol and drugs... or we can offer them some good psychological escapes to their psychological harshness in the lighter things that they are there to defend and that they dream to have the world sharing, the one they wish to have at home in peace.

Our soldiers can be entertained with GOOD magic that will makes them feel good about themselves, temporarily and metaphorically relieved from the constraints of a harsh "reality", or they can be brought down to our/their enemy level with an entertainment that implies "why not me as well" being dominating, violent, materialistic, insensitive, sexist and low....

Magic is the art of escaping from the duress of physical constraints, not the art to indulge in what's lowest in each of us. IMHO
Magic is the art of proving impossible things in parallel dimensions that can't be reached
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Yeow! I've stated that this type of magic does not appeal to me, that you can take tricks that are already out there and substitute condom packs for coins, joints for cigarettes, etc., and that this effort is really just another way to squeeze more money out of an already saturated market.

That said, I think that comparing this "dirty" approach to magic to the acts committed by terrorists is going a bit too far. The attraction to this type of magic is more akin to the titillation children feel when doing something "naughty." In other words, it is more related to immaturity than any evil intentions on the part of those who like this sort of thing.
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This looks like a bit of fun and I could definitely see some uses for this sort of material (in the right environment).
Just not sure I want to shell out $50 + Shipping to Australia with the current exchange rate the total would go close to $100 (in my money).
If only it was a little cheaper... (maybe a special offer for Aussie customers he suggests in hope but also with a bit of tongue in cheek).
Tony Venetico
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I am the audience for this - I was looking for magic to use at a bachelorette party that wants a very adult show - this is the absolute worst product I have ever bought -- anyone know any good "dirty magic" that I can actually perform? If you wanted this product but didn't want to spend $50, I'll sell it to you cheap - let me know Smile Open to adult magic suggestions, if you have any however
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ILC deck for starters.
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On Nov 11, 2016, MazingMandy wrote:
ILC deck for starters.

One day I'll do a DVD project on this kind of thing.
It'll be 10 minutes of me demonstrating a "blue" trick then 2 hours pleading that if you're not 100% sure you're audience will respond positively to the material then please please please don't do it.
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I need this dvd ha ha ! There is a time and place for tricks like these, for me its is most weekends in my town !
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