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riju1985 New user 66 Posts |
CAPICUA (Heads or Tails?) by Thinking Paradox (Instant Download) Win EVERY time at heads-or-tails.. WITH BORROWED COINS.
Imagine being able to win every single time at heads-or-tails, using ANY borrowed coin. CAPICUA is a new, clever and practical technique developed by Manuel Leal and produced by Thinking Paradox (creators of best-seller PINCH). Here's what happens.. You ask a spectator for a coin and then make it spin on a table. Now the SPECTATOR can really stop the coin whenever he wants and you actually know the result every single time even before he/she stops it! This could be presented as a direct mind reading effect, an impossible prediction or a really cool bar stunt. Best of all, the method is so practical we are sure this will be one of your go to impromptu effects when someone asks you to show them a trick. PENGUIN MAGIC COOL BOX DEAL for $5.95 ANY REVIEWS? PLOT can be used as a prelude for many a themes it seems...... |
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Magic.Maddy Inner circle 1861 Posts |
Just downloaded it.
It's nicely produced, but it is not a new method. Nefesch published this same method in "hot and cold." If you don't have hot and cold, then this is a good product, but it is pretty much a direct rip off of Nefesch's method. I'm sure it wasn't intentional and they truly believe it's original but... |
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magicgerry06 Regular user FRANCE 132 Posts |
That's exactly what I thought when I saw the demo.
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Looch Inner circle Off by 3353 Posts |
This is certainly not a new method. I for one have been using this for years. I have lectured on it and written extensively on its application in mentalism, as have others such as Karl Scott & Nefesch
When a product is release, historical research needs to have been done, 3 mentalists have work using this that I know of and I don't believe any were made aware of it prior to launch of this 'new' technique
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John C Eternal Order I THINK therefore I wrote 12968 Posts |
Regardless. It's pretty cool. I am certainly not for stealing or not crediting etc but I have purchased downloads from Nefesch that were knockoffs. One in particular was a daryl knockoff I purchased from daryl almost 15 - 18 years prior. I think what goes around comes back at ya.
J |
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JollyGreenGiant New user 60 Posts |
Here we go again! Prepare for another crediting war! lol Really wish creators would do some due diligence, or at least the companies selling the "new" effects make sure they are legit before distributing them, but alas, gotta make that money... sigh
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John C Eternal Order I THINK therefore I wrote 12968 Posts |
Nay,leave it alone. Focus on this coin thing. I've never been exposed to it so its new to me and I'm glad I bought it.
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ted french Inner circle Columbus Ohio 1946 Posts |
For all that are interested, I reached out to Looch so that I can get to the bottom of this. I also reached out to the producer of this download to help fix this crediting issue. Yes these things happen but we want to put as much effort into ensuring that creators receive proper crediting as we do in other areas of our company. I'm hoping to hear back soon and I will keep you guys updated.
P3
practice practice perform. |
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1KJ Inner circle Warning: We will run out of new tricks in 4388 Posts |
I downloaded this as well. I have been in magic for decades, have a ton of magic, and I don't recall seeing this before. That doesn't mean that it is original. My point is that it is possible for someone to come up with something they think is original, do a decent amount of research, and still not come up with where it may have come out before.
I'll leave the crediting discussions to others, and just say that I was very pleased with my download. KJ |
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Magic.Maddy Inner circle 1861 Posts |
It may seem like I wasn't pleased with my purchase. This isn't true at all. I am very happy with it!
I just wanted to be sure proper credit was given. |
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1KJ Inner circle Warning: We will run out of new tricks in 4388 Posts |
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On Nov 26, 2014, Magic.Maddy wrote: Understood. Proper credit is important. |
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Looch Inner circle Off by 3353 Posts |
Its in the hands of Penguin who will make a decision based on the evidence presented. I can however state that I have been using this move in mentalism for over 10 years. Other performers have also used it and have their own work on it. I have written on it and have lectured on it all over the world so quite clearly it is not an 'Original idea by Manuel' as stated in the trailer. What you see on that trailer is exactly what I and others have been teaching for years.
Crediting is very improtant, as is doing the relevant research prior to claiming an original idea.
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Atlas Inner circle 3103 1277 Posts |
Where is Vinny? Has anybody told him about this thread? The guy knows loads about coin flips, spins, etc. and ought to be able to explain a lot of the provenance of the methodology.
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......308093#4 Best, Atlas |
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Looch Inner circle Off by 3353 Posts |
LOL dude you are bad
What's the method
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Amirá Inner circle MentalismCenter.com 5131 Posts |
Nefesch has this method in his DVD. I don't recommend supporting this.
Best
Pablo
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IAIN Eternal Order england 18807 Posts |
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On Nov 26, 2014, John C wrote: No John, I don't agree - lets NOT leave it alone...just cos you've not seen it before doesn't mean its fine...
I've asked to be banned
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Martin Pulman Inner circle London 3399 Posts |
I couldn't decide if John C was being serious or sarcastic?
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hashtagmagic Regular user 140 Posts |
How far back does this go? Was it taken from a very old text or something?
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Ray Tupper. Special user NG16. 749 Posts |
I was shown this when I was about twelve...Thirty nine years ago.
He was my geography teacher and a well known Nottingham magician. As for the grasping attempts at claiming it is new, and also by the people who claimed it's been taken from Nefesche, did Nefesche credit my geography teacher? I bet it was donkeys years old when Mr Chambers (the teacher in question) first showed it to me. Does anybody know the history of this? Especially the ones that are lecturing about it!
What do we want?
A cure for tourettes! When do we want it? C*nt! |
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Atlas Inner circle 3103 1277 Posts |
The move is one that has been around amongst con-men and gamblers for ages, possibly known as far back as the old west. And I know that because Looch HAS done his research and has said as much when he lectured on it. His lectures focused not just on the move, but how to incorporate it into compelling presentations and was full of original and creative thinking.
Best, Atlas |
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