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Firstly, I am not condoning the behavior that led to the current accusations against Cosby. But, it still saddens me that at this stage in his life he will go to his grave with a never to be removed black cloud over his head. All of his accomplishments and good deeds will pale in comparison to the ribald tales now associated with him.

Whatever else he did, he was also a superb entertainer for hundreds of millions of viewers and listeners, a generous benefactor and a mentor to many aspiring entertainers. I suspect his public role led to many young folks becoming responsible parents.

Also, we are measuring a man's behavior from many decades ago against our mores of today. Part of my male teenage development cycle was the judicious use of alcohol to increase your odds of having your way with girls, and girls were taught by their mothers to watch out for such shenanigans. (I never did get that one right, I would always get drunk first). Actors and rock stars have built reputations on "conquests" whatever their methods. Why is he being singled out? Is it his "method" or his name? The end crime is the same for anyone whatever approach they use.

Maybe we should have a "get out of jail free pass" for this kind of a situation. The rules would be that for every ten million people you entertained and positively influenced you were forgiven a "pass" on one unacceptable act or behavior if it did no physical harm to that person (adding mental makes it tough to judge).
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If the allegations are true, then yes, it is worth him dying with a 'black cloud' over his head. If they are true, he is a disgusting excuse for a human being and dismissing his actions just because he entertained people would be the real tragedy.

"Get out of jail free?" A serial rapist is a serial rapist. If he committed acts of sexual violence against women, that is 100000000000000000% unforgivable.

Yes, this is enough to cloud over his career. Yes yes yes yes yes.

This post enrages me.
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Wow. I hardly know how to respond. Drugging 18 yo's so older men can have sex with them was just a more of the 70's?
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Whatever else he did, he was also a superb entertainer for hundreds of millions of viewers and listeners, a generous benefactor and a mentor to many aspiring entertainers. I suspect his public role led to many young folks becoming responsible parents.

And he was HANDSOMELY rewarded for it. It's not like he did it for free, out of the goodness of his heart.

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Maybe we should have a "get out of jail free pass" for this kind of a situation. The rules would be that for every ten million people you entertained and positively influenced you were forgiven a "pass" on one unacceptable act or behavior if it did no physical harm to that person (adding mental makes it tough to judge).

I'm guessing at 220 million people he may well have already hit his free pass limit.

"22 Bill Cosby Accusers" (and still counting):

http://www.thewrap.com/19-bill-cosby-acc......-so-far/
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This post enrages me.


Lots and lots of the of posts in this forum enrage me, and yours is one of them. That's why I don't come here much anymore. Now get over it and get on with your life. I'm sick of the plethora of comments in here from y'all who chomp at your collective bits to push your agendas in this forum who don't give a *** about what the other folks think or believe. Allegations are allegations and facts are facts. Would that we might wait for the facts to correct the allegations. Not in this forum. Allegations, armchair lawyers and spin come first and facts second.
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To answer your Question. Why is he being singled out? The single most important phrase in Sonnet 94 explains.

"For sweetest things turn sourest by their deeds; Lilies that fester smell far worse than weeds,"
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If he committed acts of sexual violence against women, that is 100000000000000000% unforgivable.


Bullsh!t
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If he committed acts of sexual violence against women, that is 100000000000000000% unforgivable.


Bullsh!t


Is that "magicalaurie" talking? Smile
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Violent acts against women are forgivable???? I'm so confused.
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"You will refuse to forgive 100000000000000000%."

"That's impossible. No one can refuse to forgive more than 100%. By definition, that is the most anyone can refuse to forgive."
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"You will refuse to forgive 100000000000000000%."

"That's impossible. No one can refuse to forgive more than 100%. By definition, that is the most anyone can refuse to forgive."


I actually see it quite impossible to forgive someone less than 100% also. Either you forgive them or you don't.

It is like being pregnant...either you are or you are not. You are not 50% pregnant. You are forgiven or you are not. You forgive or you don't.
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Sometimes I feel like you guys just don't listen to me.

It's a simple truth and if people started to acknowledge that human beings are highly fallible (if you'd like to consider it as such- we could just acknowledge that human beings don't know it all, afterall, and learn as they go, just like everyone else on the planet) and all is forgivable, I believe we'd be living a much more peaceful existence, despite all the proclamations to the contrary. The displays of ego and arrogance and hypocrisy performed by those who proclaim another is unforgivable/unworthy are the very roots of the perpetuation of violence in our society, I suggest. When you get down to it, it is really quite simple. The guy can be forgiven. Some factions of the human population, for some reason seem to think it demonstrates a sort of intellectual superiority by complicating, thus attempting to obscure the truth with Bullsh!t. Clear? Case in point. Bullsh!t summed it up succinctly and you all pressured for complexity... next you'll say I confused you. You confuse yourselves, I say.
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Thankyou, Bob. Just for the sake of clarity and consistency, I need to edit slightly and so adjust this line:

Some factions of the human population, for some reason, seem to think they demonstrate a sort of intellectual superiority by complicating, and thus attempt to obscure the truth with Bullsh!t.
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Not going to judge the guy. It does make me feel less comfortable enjoying what I recall of his work.
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Whether Cosby's guilty or not the original post here is very disturbing to me. In my state you cannot legally consent to sex if under the influence and I agree with that law.
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Anyone else up for comment on the ten million laughs earns a legal exception?
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Thankyou, Bob. Just for the sake of clarity and consistency, I need to edit slightly and so adjust this line:

Some factions of the human population, for some reason, seem to think they demonstrate a sort of intellectual superiority by complicating, and thus attempt to obscure the truth with Bullsh!t.


You're welcome Laurie; and thank you for your astute perspective here. I couldn't agree with you more.
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