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Yes BlackZ. Would love to hear your thoughts about this.
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I have just finished to watch both the DVD.

First of all they could have done everything on a single DVD instead of two but I think that this is a marketing move to justify this high price that is anyway too high for what it is.

In the first DVD you see some performances, then there is a general introduction of the cold reading and how it works with a general script on Barnum's style (Barnum's statement) and it end with a superficial description about palm reading, I hate when they told you, if you want to know more about that, buy this other product of mine... for what this DVD cost, just go into the details as you have a lot of space to use on both the DVDs.

The second DVD is about Tarot's reading, again a superficial introduction that you can deepen on another product of him, and on how to close the reading.

Do not misunderstand me, the product is not bad at all but of course it is too expensive for what it is and it is just for a person who has never done a cold reading before and, anyway, this person have to study in details on some other source how to do a palm reading or a tarot reading because of here the presentation is very superficial.

If I want to learn readings (palm, tarots, ...) there are a lot of better products which cost much much much less.

At the very end then he tolds that these DVDs could be the right companion for the Ice Cold Reading book... I have thought that this is a subtitute of the book not a companion... anyway that's my mistake.

Hope this could help.
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On Dec 29, 2014, BlackZ wrote:
I have just finished to watch both the DVD.

First of all they could have done everything on a single DVD instead of two but I think that this is a marketing move to justify this high price that is anyway too high for what it is.

In the first DVD you see some performances, then there is a general introduction of the cold reading and how it works with a general script on Barnum's style (Barnum's statement) and it end with a superficial description about palm reading, I hate when they told you, if you want to know more about that, buy this other product of mine... for what this DVD cost, just go into the details as you have a lot of space to use on both the DVDs.

The second DVD is about Tarot's reading, again a superficial introduction that you can deepen on another product of him, and on how to close the reading.

Do not misunderstand me, the product is not bad at all but of course it is too expensive for what it is and it is just for a person who has never done a cold reading before and, anyway, this person have to study in details on some other source how to do a palm reading or a tarot reading because of here the presentation is very superficial.

If I want to learn readings (palm, tarots, ...) there are a lot of better products which cost much much much less.

At the very end then he tolds that these DVDs could be the right companion for the Ice Cold Reading book... I have thought that this is a subtitute of the book not a companion... anyway that's my mistake.

Hope this could help.


Thank you for your review, and for saving me $150.
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I watched the DVDs and I can say that you can get 95% of this info from different resources BUT if you want to learn a fast way to do readings in one place, this may be for you. Is it worth $150 maybe not.
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Alright guys I really need your help with this. I am a magician that has been practicing for about three and a half years. I love magic and have decided I want to learn mentalism too. I need to know if this is a good starting source for me or if it wont be worth the money without other resources and prior knowledge. If this wont be a good buy for me what should I get. I really appreciate all the help.
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On Dec 31, 2014, Kyoki_Sanitys_Eclipse wrote:
Alright guys I really need your help with this. I am a magician that has been practicing for about three and a half years. I love magic and have decided I want to learn mentalism too. I need to know if this is a good starting source for me or if it wont be worth the money without other resources and prior knowledge. If this wont be a good buy for me what should I get. I really appreciate all the help.


This won't be what you're looking for. Look into Richard Osterlinds 6 DVD set on Annemann's Mental Effects. It's a great deal and great for a beginner!
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Thanks a lot. I was stupid and ordered this from penguin magic without doing enough research. I though it would allow me to become an efficient cold reader. I'm just glad they have a return policy and I haven't opened it yet.
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Also will this set of DVDs help me learn how to cold read others. If not what are some good resources that will help me with this.
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I haven't received my set of Ice Cold yet, but this may be a good source for a beginner in doing cold readings... Not sure.
If you want to get started in Mentalism effects, this isn't the set.
The Osterlind set will not teach you how to Cold Read but will teach Mind Reading effects.
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Alright do you have any recommendations for cold reading and please let me know what you think of the dvd. Thanks again
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I'm just getting into readings myself. My girlfriend ordered me this set for Christmas. Looks like it's going to be "ok".... lol
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I'd suggest getting a good grounding in mentalism before you get into readings. Corinda is the standard book, along with Bob Cassidy's works. Richard Osterland's DVD, as mentioned before are great. If you're interested in readings, learn an oracle, like tarot, palm reading or numerology
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Look into Julian Moores ebooks. Really cheap prices for really great, fast to learn systems. I only have the palm reading one right now but will most likely get the others.
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Thanks a lot for all the recommendations guys. I really appreciate it. I'll look into them and give them a try. I already own corinda and that's what got me interested.
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Is stunners by larry becker a good place to start also or should I stay away from it.
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This was one of the worst mentalism products I've ever purchased. Nothing that hasn't appeared in numerous other cold reading publications. The "system" is too basic and not explained well, and jumps all over the place.

Jheff also didn't like it, from his newsletter: "Morgan Strebler's ICE COLD - I have serious issues with this. The marketing is incredibly misleading, it's priced much higher compared to other similar items, the information on the DVD is not organized or presented in a way that delivers on its promise, and, most importantly, I found hardly anything original and/or worthy of the marketing and price that's being asked. Yes, I know Bob Cassidy and Marc Salem both seemed to give high praise to it, but I think the comments may have been taken out of context. Anyway, if you still want it..."

There are much better cold reading products available at much more reasonable prices.
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This was one of the worst mentalism products I've ever purchased. Nothing that hasn't appeared in numerous other cold reading publications. The "system" is too basic and not explained well, and jumps all over the place.

Jheff also didn't like it, from his newsletter: "Morgan Strebler's ICE COLD - I have serious issues with this. The marketing is incredibly misleading, it's priced much higher compared to other similar items, the information on the DVD is not organized or presented in a way that delivers on its promise, and, most importantly, I found hardly anything original and/or worthy of the marketing and price that's being asked. Yes, I know Bob Cassidy and Marc Salem both seemed to give high praise to it, but I think the comments may have been taken out of context. Anyway, if you still want it..."

There are much better cold reading products available at much more reasonable prices.


I agree with Jheff's assessment of this product. Nothing new or original here. It is a haphazard "system" that obviously "borrows" from other sources. The routines and performances are uninspiring to say the least. This came off completely as a guy just trying to fake it. A DVD set priced at 150 dollars should be delivering big time. This should have been a 40 dollar set, but even at that price this would have been very disappointing.

I bought this purely on speculation based on some of the endorsements. Big mistake. 1 / 10 for me.
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While I don't do cold reading besides throwing a random guess out here and there during some mind reading, I found this to be "alright". It was cool to watch it all in action but I agree with a lot of people who say this is unoriginal and overpriced. A $40/$50 price tag would've been more reasonable.

I will be putting this to work and add some more cold reading techniques in the mix...

Now, I got a question.... Is there books out with different techniques on how to handle misses?
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Now, I got a question.... Is there books out with different techniques on how to handle misses?


Yes. The three that I'd recommend for handling misses are Rowland's Full Facts Book of Cold Reading. There are either 11 or 13 misses discussed in the Win-Win Game section, including the one discussed on Ice Cold. The Dance by Brad Henderson covers several others (including the one discussed on Ice Cold). There is some overlap in the two books in the misses discussed, but not a lot. Finally, Mind Reading by Kenton Knepper has some more, too. I'd say between the three books there, you'll probably find nearly 30 different outs that can be used for different types of cold reading statements, and ways to evolve the statement so you never appeared to miss.
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On Jan 7, 2015, clairvoyant wrote:
This was one of the worst mentalism products I've ever purchased. Nothing that hasn't appeared in numerous other cold reading publications. The "system" is too basic and not explained well, and jumps all over the place.

Jheff also didn't like it, from his newsletter: "Morgan Strebler's ICE COLD - I have serious issues with this. The marketing is incredibly misleading, it's priced much higher compared to other similar items, the information on the DVD is not organized or presented in a way that delivers on its promise, and, most importantly, I found hardly anything original and/or worthy of the marketing and price that's being asked. Yes, I know Bob Cassidy and Marc Salem both seemed to give high praise to it, but I think the comments may have been taken out of context. Anyway, if you still want it..."

There are much better cold reading products available at much more reasonable prices.


I agree with Jheff's assessment of this product. Nothing new or original here. It is a haphazard "system" that obviously "borrows" from other sources. The routines and performances are uninspiring to say the least. This came off completely as a guy just trying to fake it. A DVD set priced at 150 dollars should be delivering big time. This should have been a 40 dollar set, but even at that price this would have been very disappointing.

I bought this purely on speculation based on some of the endorsements. Big mistake. 1 / 10 for me.



I have to say I'm certainly not thrilled with it either. Too much effort into the DVD production and not enough NEW content, in fact most of the ideas I've been using for years. Certainly does not live up to the pre-launch hype.
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