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Piglet New user Edmonton, Canada 81 Posts |
Hey all!
I"m new to card magic, and I'm addicted to gimmick cards and would like to start on the real good stuff. I know a few sleight. like I can pull a card out of the air and stuff and the sliding move thingy ( dunno what's it called ) But ya.. is this dvd a good investment? The other ones are so expensive and there are so many volumes.. It seems like this Dvd has sleight and some good tricks on it? and what not, is it easy to learn from? ie ( ambitious card..) |
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Close.Up.Dave Inner circle Behind you! 2956 Posts |
I would advise you to skip the dvd and start out with a book like The Royal Road To Card Magic which gives a lot of the basics. It's much cheaper and gives almost all the same moves. After studying that book you can move on to the Easy To Master Card Miracles series by Michael Ammar.
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Blackwood Special user Mind-Play 528 Posts |
"Born To Perform" has helped me a lot. Yes, I have Royal Road and Erdnase but I'm finding it much easier to learn visually-- especially from DVDs (which are easier to use than tapes.)
So, yes, Piglet, I'd say Oz could help you get started on a good foundation. |
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Dbzkid999 Elite user Canada 407 Posts |
If you're a beginner, it's the right thing for you. He teaches the most important stuff in sleight-of-hand and teaches you a lot of misdrection when doing your routines.
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mattisdx Inner circle 1614 Posts |
My advice which worked for me is to start out with the most advanced stuff first. pick up Lennart Greens's Green Magic volume 1.
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Jatt New user Rhondda S.Wales UK 92 Posts |
I'm new to card magic and I'm working thu Card College vol 1.
To Run along side the book I'm using Richard Kaufman's Basic Basic Card Technique. I find that works great for me as I can see the Technique on the dvd too see if I'm going right. I think there is no right or wrong way in learning. Granted I think you get more bang for your buck thu books plus you get more detail. Plus I think dvd's is great for the visual learner. Im not the type of person to say this is the way full stop.
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seraph127 Special user 587 Posts |
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On 2004-02-05 22:58, mattisdx wrote: Odd advice. That seems to me a bit like trying to teach a beginning guitarist by starting him/her with Segovia's arrangement of "La Torre Bermeja".
There are many tricks, and many effects, but rarely a Grand Effect. There are many entertainers, but few real magicians. Many technicians, but few artists who use their art to explore their vision. - Derren Brown, Absolute Magic
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Eirik Special user Oslo 879 Posts |
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On 2004-02-01 10:54, dave2lift wrote: He He, Good advice! Start of with Lennart Green's FISM routine, continue with Impossible card magic with Ray Kosby, and end with the Close-Up Artistry DVD set from Renè Lavand, you'll be sure to give up cardmagic forever.. It's like starting to learn juggling, but not with 3 balls, no - with 5.. -e-
...As long as i`m not a world-champion at anything, the great reactions of doin` magic will do just fine.....
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stache New user 69 Posts |
Okay, I have held my mouth shut for long enough. I do not want to trample all over Oz's DVD (I'll let reviewers from magazines do that) but I have to say that buying his DVD to start you out in card magic is a bad idea. I agree with the people that say Royal Road and Card College 1 are the way to go. Erdnase is a little too advanced for someone just starting out. If you are one of these people that whines and complains because "Oh I can't learn from a book I have to have a video or DVD." Well then I suggest you buy the Ammar card magic videos, also I will tell you that if you can't learn card magic from a book then you are not going to learn any of the really good routines out there cause they are all in books and only a select few are on video. If you are still adamant about buying the Oz DVD I suggest that you first read the Mike Close review of that DVD that is in Magic Magazine (The latest issue to have S&R on the cover). After you read his review then if you still want to buy his DVD then go right ahead, hey its not skin off my nose.
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Heavens to Mercitroids Regular user 117 Posts |
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On 2004-02-09 09:44, stache wrote: Looks like you should have held your mouth shut a little longer. You are talking about the WRONG DVD!!! The DVD being discussed in this thread is Oz's "Born to Perform". The DVD you mentioned, which was reviewed by Mike Close in "Magic" magazine is Oz's "Stealing Pips".
When it's my time to shine.....The whole world is going blind.....From the Shiesty side of town.....Where a nickle costs a dime!
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elgranmago Veteran user 371 Posts |
Piglet,
You asked a very simple question. I own BTP. It´s really good. I also own RRTCM, Erdnase and Mr. Ammar´s second card video (he´s great). BTP is VERY useful. Even now, while I am not typing obviously, I am working on the double lift (think Ambitious Card) which thanks to Oz, I´m finally learning to do well! He is a very good teacher. Don´t dismiss BTP. Enjoy the magic!
"It´s kind of fun to do the impossible". Walt Disney
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thehawk Inner circle 2275 Posts |
Get Michael Ammar's "Easy To Master Card Miracles". Check out the videos for sale here and you should be able to pick them up quite reasonable.
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stache New user 69 Posts |
Wrong DVD or not its still a bad choice for a beginner, Pardon me for not having the freaking magazine right here right in front of me, I forgot that you never made a mistake.
I believe his review would have been the same no matter which of Oz's DVDs he was looking at. I am in total agreement with Thehawk. |
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Heavens to Mercitroids Regular user 117 Posts |
I'm curious on these threads sometimes, so I'm wondering if you ever got the DVD Piglet?? If not, which did you get, if any??
When it's my time to shine.....The whole world is going blind.....From the Shiesty side of town.....Where a nickle costs a dime!
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salsa_dancer Inner circle 1935 Posts |
Complete card magic 1-7 is a great resource. Combine that with Royal Road and aExpert at the Card table and away you go forever!!
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JackDaniel Veteran user nevada 376 Posts |
Well Piglet,
I lecture 5-6 beginner magicians 2 days a week, we have gone through both of the Oz DVD's and the students love them! They say that they feel it's easier to learn from him than from Daryl or Ammar. Oz is a "new kid on the magic block" and he does a great teaching job. Go for them both!!! Jack.
Visit the magic of Vegas and your life will change forever..
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Eric Grossman Elite user St. Louis, MO 429 Posts |
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On 2004-02-09 19:17, stache wrote: Hey Stache, Too bad you were offended by HTM's post, but if you're going to write an inflammatory post, then you'd better get it right. This is somebody's important work that you're commenting on. You are not permitted to make that type of mistake. Nor are you permitted to tell us what Mike Close would have said, had it been another DVD. Your response was childish, grow up. Eric Grossman
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JackDaniel Veteran user nevada 376 Posts |
Amen Eric!
I respect the opinion from somone who actually own the DVD. If you don't own it - keep quiet! Jack.
Visit the magic of Vegas and your life will change forever..
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Photofnish Regular user Issaquah, WA 140 Posts |
"Born To Perform" is an excellent learning tool for card neophytes. It complements "Royal Road" nicely and sets you up for success with stuff like Ammar's "Easy To Master Card Miracles #1" down the road. Example...
Oz teaches the DL quite well. Once you're competent with the DL, stuff like "Red Hot Mama" from ETMCM is a piece of cake. |
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trickster2000 Loyal user Toronto 284 Posts |
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On 2004-02-09 19:17, stache wrote: You gotta be a doorknob for sayiing that the reviews would have been the same regardless of which dvd it was...I would love to see you release a dvd of your work so it could be reviewed... I don't even own born to perform, but from what it has listed as contents, it seems like a really good buy for a beginner... I don't even know why anyone is comparing this dvd with Ammars dvd'S, because there are 6 dvd's in the Ammar series and one Oz dvd.... |
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