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NeoMagic
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I haven't yet come across a reference for a double lift that I've been using for some time now. I'm wondering whether I've created it independently or originated it (eats humble pie!)... in any case, any help with a reference and name appreciated.

Here's a short clip of me performing the double (500K in Windows Media Player format):

http://www.draftaccount.fsnet.co.uk/udoubleopt.wmv

Thanks in advance.
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I am wondering, each time I see DL like yours (which is quite deceptive!) if you ever turn over singles the same way. It seems so unnatural for me... But maybe you incorporate this kind of motion in YOUR naturalness. Anyway, I haven't see this very one before.
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I have been around magic for 50 years and have not seen anything like this handling. As Jonathan says you must turn all your cards over in this manner for it to be effective or be able to use it.

Otherwise it would be considered a flourish instead of a new way to perform a double lift.

Is the get ready 100% every time, being able to lift 2 cards with the upward movement of your thumb?

If you write this up, you must also explain the get-ready and what parts of your hand does what.

Interesting different method.

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It looks similar to Larry Jennings' snap double (except you don't trap the card after the snap) and Carmen D'amico's double lift (except you don't pivot the double face up).
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I haven't seen a double lift like it before. Very deceptive!
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You influenced me very much. I just started to create un-natural double lifts to compete with you.

The first method is just the opposite of your method. I pop up the double at upper right corner and catch the cards with the right hand.

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Thanks for all the input and observations - very much appreciated. I'm considering writing this up so that it's officially recorded. I'm stuck for a name... so all suggestions welcome to that end. I'm calling it the Upstanding Double for now. If I can, I'll showcase it on a web page.

I accept that the move is a touch on the flourishy side.

Bill, to answer your question, yes I can effect the get-ready every time, either two or three cards as necessary. Took some practice mind you but you get a feel for it after a while.

Hideo, love to see what you come up with.
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Hi Neo,

Why not name it after yourself? Most use their last name. That's because first names are more common. If your first name is "Bob," then naming it the "The Bob Double Lift" doesn't have that distinctive a ring... But if your last name isn't something like "Smith," and something like maybe "Henderson" or whatever, calling it the "Henderson Double Lift" certainly is distinctive and your name will be remembered and associated to your accomplishment. Smile

By the way, I really like it and would be interested to see where you publish it on that web site you mentioned!
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It looks like a very difficult way to accomplish a very simple task. It may very well be original, but it also looked absurdly suspicious to my eyes. Like you were having to concentrate on the move. Maybe I'm wrong.
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Marko, in my view it's no more difficult than the Jennings' Snap Double, the Snap-Over Double (LePaul), the Crook Double (Gary Ouellet?) and a number of other DLs.

As for concentration... perhaps I was camera-shy! Smile
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I have come up with 'HK Pop Up Double Lift' already. It was influenced by NeoMagic's strange Double Lift.
If you bring your right hand near the deck, the double cards stand up vertically to face the audience and jump in right hand.

It looks fancy, but I will never use it.

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While the apparent get ready is unusual, if done under misdirection it sets up a VERY nice display. I'd like to know more.
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Jonathan, you sparked me.

Yes, NeoMagic's get-ready was too unusual. I got another way of get-ready. And I got another way of making this Double Lift usable. I will post it later.

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On 2004-02-02 18:58, Hideo Kato wrote:
I have come up with 'HK Pop Up Double Lift' already. It was influenced by NeoMagic's strange Double Lift.


LOL. All of a sudden my DL has become "strange"! Smile

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On 2004-02-02 19:04, Jonathan Townsend wrote:
While the apparent get ready is unusual, if done under misdirection it sets up a VERY nice display. I'd like to know more.


Thank you for the observation, Jonathan. I use this get-ready all the time... I didn't like to thumb count cards for the Jennings Snap Double so worked on cleanly picking up two or three cards with the thumb instead. It's become second nature.
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It's great that you have something new. It may be non-traditional, but Lee Asher's non-traditional double has a card pop-up and that's the one he uses for performing. I think your double doesn't look like two cards, so you're on your way.

Possible names:
Twist N' Double
Twist Up Double
Barney Double (sorry, big fan of the Flintstones.)
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Hey, Mike. Love those names, they're not bad at all: Twist N' Double is nice! And thanks for the kind comments.
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Just my two cents... I too saw what appeared to be a concentrated effort when viewing. Very similar to a few pop up DL's I've seen in the past. I've even experimented occasionally with them but "always" went back to a "push off" double lift with no get ready. This is how I deal regular cards so it flows nicely.

However, I would consider using a pop up DL like this for a--hmmm how can I say--for instance, draw attention to the fact that their card is gonna strangely appear. Perform that lift showing "the wrong card" then placing the (their card) card on the table for them to place their finger on ala Card Under Your Finger--a Gary Oullet Effect.
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Hehehe Barney Double....

That REALLY made me laugh!
I love that name. I will not go searching for yet
another cure but if inspiration ever stikes and I
come up with a novel double that really works, I will
have to get your permission to use that name.

I am still chuckling... Smile
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I think I've seen a demo of something where they used a demo much like that, but I just can't remember. It happened right before a snap change I remember. But your double is very clean (when you do it).
Anyway, yours couldn't be exactly the same so it is all right with me. Even if it is almost exactly the same (which I doubt) there are many very similar effects and sleights so I don't think there will be any problem.
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It did look a bit like a reverse kind of Jennings snap double, but was very clean.

Listen to the advice above...in order for it to be effective, you need to turn over all of your singles in the same way.

Does it work as well with triples?
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