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I am curious to hear from my fellow Caféterians whether they can recommend joining a magic club/fraternity like S.A.M. or I.B.M. (or no club at all), and which one is more recommended than the other (or if no club at all is what you do, why?).
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For me it is none...if there was an active group closer than 2 hours, I would likely be writing a different answer.
Dick Oslund
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Hi Rookie!

I've belonged to I Bother Magicians for 65 years as of April 1, and Some Are Magicians for, I rhink, 40 years as of August 1. They both have a monthly magazine (ooops, IBM has a "journal") As a new member, I read every word! Now, I skim the table of contents, earmark the articles that sound interesting, and try to read them within about a week. The rest of the material, I skim. For years, I carefully saved them until the walls got too thick. I sold them at an auction. I do xerox the pages of anything that I think is worth filing.

Some local Rings and Assemblies are very active. Some have monthly meetings because the meeting is on their calendar. Some have a good cross section of young, intermediate, and older members (amateur, part time professional, and full time professional).

Most groups welcome new people as guests. I would suggest that you visit a meeting, or two, or even three! You'll "know" if joining will be fun and beneficial. You're in Seattle. There was a ring there, the last time I toured the schools in Washington in the early '90s. I don't remember if there is/was an Assembly.

In either case, you may join the national, and get the magazine. Whether you join a ring or assembly is elective. You may find a mentor'

SAM is the older organization, IBM came along later.

I hope that helps. Frankly, at 83, I don't need to belong! --It has become a "habit" to send a check!

Yr's, 'til the deck is shuffled!

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Ray Bertrand
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I am a current member of the Canadian Association of Magicians, SAM, the Fraser Valley Magic Circle and the Academy of Magical Arts (Magic Castle) in California. They all have their individual perks and many of them have local rings/assemblies. Belonging to an organization means you will be kept up to date on the latest news as well as the new toys.

Mentalism in Ontario.
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Yes, join. Attend a few meetings and then decide one or both. Some clubs are stronger in a local area. Local membership is what matters and you won't know that without attending a few meetings.

There is no substitute to an experienced magician that is willing to help you with your skills. You find them at club meetings

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In addition to what has already been said, you can also enjoy the lecture experience put on by clubs.

Of the two clubs, I've always preferred the magazine put out by the IBM.
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I would say join, I was a member of the magic circle when I lived in the UK and always enjoyed it. I only wish there was a club where I live now but there isn't, its great to get with like minded folk and chat.
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