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DaveM Special user Germany 788 Posts |
It can be found in Martin's video "Infinity & Beyond", which I believe also discusses his work with the table faro
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Kabbalah Inner circle 1621 Posts |
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On Jan 14, 2015, Turk wrote: Infinity & Beyond
"Long may magicians fascinate and continue to be fascinated by the mystery potential in a pack of cards."
~Cliff Green "The greatest tricks ever performed are not done at all. The audience simply think they see them." ~ John Northern Hilliard |
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts |
Infinity takes less than a second to create and can be done right under their noses.
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats |
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Alewishus Inner circle parts unknown 1226 Posts |
Yes he was one of the greats.
He was generous enough to surprisingly answer some of my questions about faro work, and made me feel everything he did was in my reach; proper practice notwithstanding. A.
Sack subs, ok Ross?
We miss you asper. |
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Mike Powers Inner circle Midwest 2983 Posts |
The Infinity Crimp is a great on the fly secret weapon. Specs will generally cut to the crimp too. Very powerful stuff.
Mike
Mike Powers
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IanLand Regular user 125 Posts |
Infinity is my standard crimp. I think he regarded it as his most significant contribution. Could well be right.
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Turk Inner circle Portland, OR 3546 Posts |
Thanks for the prompt response and information on Martin's "Infinity and Beyond" DVD. That was very much appreciated.
BTW, does anyone know if the Infinity Crimp is taught on the 3-DVD set entitled "The Very Best of Martin Nash"? I looked this set up on the (appropriate) site, and, while the list of effects is very extensive, basically only named effects are listed and there is no separate section on "Moves". That said, I can't help but think that the "Infinity Crimp" is taught by Martin while teaching one or more of those many effects. I'm suspecting that the "Infinity Crimp" might be taught on Disk 3, Part 2 during the explanations of one or more of the following routines: "Gambler and Card Shark", One-Armed Bandit" or "Martin's Blackjack Routine". Anyone know for certain if and where the "Infinity Crimp" explanation might appear on this DVD set? Thanks again for any info in this regard. Mike
Magic is a vanishing Art.
This must not be Kansas anymore, Toto. Eschew obfuscation. |
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Remillard New user Mississauga, On 84 Posts |
Don't know about the Very Best 3 disk set, but on the 5 disk set, Award Winning Card Magic, it is taught on disk 4.
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trooper108 New user 1 Post |
I took private 2-hour weekly lessons with Martin Nash 35 (yikes) years ago. It was really a great experience. He had such amazing stories about magicians and card sharps. He didn't teach me card tricks per se. His approach was to teach fundamental card control moves and every week my homework was to create my own tricks around the moves. To this day, that is basically what I do, invent my own material around the moves and come up with effects and just figure out the moves that best suite the effect.
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Rachmaninov Inner circle 1076 Posts |
Definetely yes ! He is one of the Greats.
I was chatting last year with someone at the magic castle (I’m sorry, I don’t remember his name, maybe he will react here) who has seen them all. Amongst a few names who impressed him the most, Martin Nash was one of them. |
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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 2653 Posts |
Yes. As another one of the greats said, best second deal I've ever seen.
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
~Will Rogers |
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ShaunR New user 52 Posts |
But a terrible bottom deal and his performing personality hasn't aged well at all.
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JasonEngland V.I.P. Las Vegas, NV 1728 Posts |
ShaunR,
His bottom deal may not have been the best, but not sure what you mean about his personality. I spent loads of time with Martin at the Castle in 1999 and 2000 when I first moved to California. Audiences LOVED him. Standing ovations were the norm rather than the exception. His 'Charming Cheat' character played extremely well with lay audiences, right up to the very end. If you're talking about his green lame' jackets from the Videonics series tapes from the 1980s, then I agree, they're a bit dated. But Martin himself adjusted with the times. At the Castle he wore a white tuxedo more often than not and it suited him terrifically. Jason
Eternal damnation awaits anyone who questions God's unconditional love. --Bill Hicks
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ShaunR New user 52 Posts |
Perhaps speaking out of turn or over-asserting my own viewpoint in that case then Jason. I found/find his performing style on the Magicana videos to be somewhat condescending by using lines like "This has nothing to do with the effect, I just wanted to make you feel important", "Am I going too fast... no, you're just watching too slow" and chastising people for their shuffles. I'm not gonna live and die by my opinion enough to find concrete examples but that's what I remembered. Also worth noting I think the same thing about Cervon, so I'm open to it being my hang up entirely. Given you spent time with him and saw it first hand I'm happy to say I'm wrong.
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JasonEngland V.I.P. Las Vegas, NV 1728 Posts |
Shaun,
I think you are correct to be wary of antagonistic lines like that. It takes the right type of performer to use them. What maybe isn't coming across on video is that Martin always had a twinkle in his eye when he delivered lines like that and his playfulness came across very well in person. He continued to use those lines even at the Castle. No one took those lines seriously. They knew he was gently teasing. Jason
Eternal damnation awaits anyone who questions God's unconditional love. --Bill Hicks
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clars Regular user Folsom Ca 116 Posts |
My Father told me a story, Of Mr. Nash at a convention, breaking some record of performing card magic, for an insane amount of time, without repeating the same trick. I remember my Father telling me it was like 24 hours straight, could be wrong. I know the convention was in western Canada, probably some time in the 70's. Amazing.
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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 2653 Posts |
In what I've seen his confident charm let him say things some of us wouldn't.
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
~Will Rogers |
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Joe Scanlon New user 5 Posts |
Jason is right, audiences at the Magic Castle loved Martin Nash. I was fortunate to see him perform there a couple of times during the Nineties, and also at one of A-1's Conventions at the Capital during the same period, where he gave me a quickie lesson on the faro shuffle. He enabled me to realize that it's easier than I had thought. I had always felt that executing a perfect weave was hard enough, but consistently making the required perfect cut seemed nearly impossible. Yet in just a few moments he showed me that you could look at the back end of the deck and, with a bit of practice, just "see" where to make that cut.
The condescension that ShaunR alluded to above re the Magicana videos perhaps illustrates the difference between video and being there in person. Martin's 'Charming Cheat' sobriquet was well chosen; he WAS charming! Those same remarks that appeared to be condescending on video worked in person because it was obvious to his audience that he was an outstanding card man who performed with a twinkle in his eye, a sometimes mischievous smile on his face, and warmth and humor in his voice. My girlfriend and I invited Martin to lunch at that convention in Sacramento, which he accepted. He said that he had eight working routines, and that his "Ovation" closer involving matching all the cards had proven to be so popular at the Castle that when once he tried to deviate by performing another of his routines there, several spectators came up to him after the show and expressed disappointment that he had not matched all the cards. After that he always performed "Ovation" at the Castle. At that same lunch, Martin bemoaned the fact that his performing career was necessarily drawing to a close due to arthritis in his fingers resulting from his work as a young man in the logging industry in the Pacific Northwest. He also said that on days when he didn't perform, he would spend 12 to 14 hours practicing, and that he enjoyed that more than performing because the tricks in his eight performing routines were, to him, "old material," whereas what he was practicing was new and exciting. Martin said that he only worked with cards and that he never used gaffes, nor did his decks contain jokers. He only used honest decks consisting of 52 cards. Which is not to say that he didn't sometimes perform tricks using fewer than 52 cards, such as his excellent version of "Too Many Cards" that he called "Limited Ambitions". He also said that he didn't use the "CHaSeD" sequence as a memory aid, but rather the ranking of suits in bridge, i.e., Spades, Hearts, Diamonds and Clubs. One other tip Martin gave me: I forget the name of the product he used to aid his grip (SortKwik, perhaps?), but when performing he always kept a dab of it behind his right ear lobe, it being natural enough to casually pull on his ear lobe with his fingers and thumb whenever he needed to reload. I didn't get to see Dai Vernon perform live, but I'm sure glad that I got to see Martin Nash. He was truly one of the all-time greats! |
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Joe Scanlon New user 5 Posts |
Should be "Conventions at the Capitol".
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Joe Scanlon New user 5 Posts |
P.S. For the sake of completeness, I should add that when I met Martin Nash at the A-1 Convention at the Capitol, he was in town not only to lecture, but also to shoot the videos for A-1 that are, now that they are on DVD, known as the Magicana videos. By that time, of course, he was already limited by the arthritis in his fingers. He told me, "For example, I can't do such-and-such move anymore," and I didn't get the impression that it only affected his ability to perform one sleight. So maybe that's why his bottom deal by the time he shot those videos didn't look so great. To see what his bottom deal looked like in his prime, one might check the videos he shot at a younger age, which L&L carries as "The Very Best of Martin Nash." I'm not a card man, only an enthusiast working to become a good amateur, so I'm not the one to judge.
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