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cesaroski
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Hello ladies and gentlem!
So I have been reading the royal road to card magic as I previously said in a post. I finished from a while now the overhand shuffle section and want to know: how do you know if you are ready to get to the next chapter and that you have mastered a technique?
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Just perform it and see if it works like you want it to.
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Yes the best thing is just to try it out on friends and family, if they are fooled move on to the next sleight.
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Agree on the other tips. I also come back to the basics regularely. So I still practice the overhand shuffle control.
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Personally I spend plenty of time going back attempting to perfect any of the techniques I've learned. It doesn't stop me from moving forward. For what its worth, I'm of the opinion one should start practicing a double lift much sooner than is found taught in the royal road. I started teaching myself how to handle cards and knew only the simplest card controls with the overhand shuffle when I first met with my mentor. The first thing he showed me, the thing he said would be the most important sleight I learned in card magic, was the double lift. I'm knew to all of this myself but that really stuck with me. Second to simply practicing my shuffle work I spend the most time practicing get readies, thumb counts and multiple lifts.
cesaroski
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Wow jescilito, encountering someone that actually mentors you must have been really cool. How did it happen?
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When I started learning sleights,(some 20 years ago) I learned them in the context of a routine. One of the firsts was Paul Harris' Tap Dancing Aces. It incorporated many different sleights and moves but I also learned timing and smooth transitioning from one move to the next. I also learned a ton from John Bannon's packet effects like Strangers Gallery and others. This way I could practice the moves but, as I said, in the context of a routine.

Learning shuffles and the DL are important for sure but what you do before and after the moves is critical as well.
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Remind me to tell you about ED MARLO and the gorilla at Lincoln Park Zoo that could do a perfect "DL".
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Oh hey, Don't forget to tell us about Ed Marlow and the gorilla at The Lincoln Park Zoo that could do a perfect "DL."
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I thought the gorilla did the second deal?
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I agree with David , better to do set of moves as a routine.
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Cesaroski - Check out Roberto Giobbi's "card kata." As long as you can at least DO each move (doesn't have to be perfect or anything yet), the card kata allows you to string together several moves in a set sequence for practice. It's like learning the move in the context of a routine, and helps tremendously in helping your transitions from one move to another. Once you have memorized the sequence, practice the card kata a lot and each individual move will also get better.

You can find the card kata in Introduction To Card Magic, which is a pdf (!) here: http://eugenemagicclub.com/Giobbi_Card_Magic-Intro.pdf

Hope that helps!

Ken
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