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Get on over to the Middle East and have a sit-down with some ISIS folks. Show us how it's done; the Western world will be in your debt.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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Sounds like he has a handle on exactly what needs to be done.
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An American sniper who served in Iraq speaks:

http://www.salon.com/2015/02/01/i_was_an......_my_war/


Yep a great non biased source there.


yeah, better to stick to neutral sources like Clint Eastwood.


Gee I would love for you to show me where I took a position either way on Clint Eastwood or the moviev or the accuracy of any of it.

Come on John put up or shut up.

And Salon is biased.

Eastwood has an obvious agenda. Selling movie tickets. Fairly easy to know that right?


Send me a PM and I'll explain.
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Naw you make the accusation in public put up or shut up in public.
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Danny, name the accusation and I will address it. Promise. But you've never followed through before, and I have no doubt you'll begin your adolescent roostering once again.

But like every else on the forum, I'm rather bored of your chasing me, and your infantile attempts to play gotcha.

If you have a serious question, I'll answer it in a PM.
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Lobo, Danny, it worked in Ireland. It worked in South Africa. The world is full of reasonable Muslims. Talk might work again. I would back it ahead of sneaky sniper bullets any day.
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The world is, indeed, full of reasonable Muslims.

Unfortunately, there are quite a few unreasonable ones, too, and they're the ones causing the problems.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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The world is, indeed, full of reasonable Muslims.

Unfortunately, there are quite a few unreasonable ones, too, and they're the ones causing the problems.

So they are the ones we really need to talk to.

Gerry Adams and Martin McGuinness, two vicious murdering terrorists. We wouldn't have peace in Ireland if we hadn't overcome our revulsion and sat down with them.
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Who is stopping you from implementing this oh so simple solution?
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Not a xenophobe necessarily, but a monster certainly. If you killed out of a sense of duty, and to save lives, I can get that. But if it gave you great pleasure, that would indicate a serious character flaw in you.

As I said, read his book. His own words condemn him.


Thought I'd take you up on it since I've only seen the movie. Like you, I read the first chapter.. Yep, just as I thought. He was a hero.
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Well said!!
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He was a deeply biased and racist man, who had a xenophobic hatred of non-Americans. His killing was motivated out of a sheer pleasure in killing 'savages'....


I challenge you to quote where in the book it shows him to be racist and to have a xenophobic hatred of non-Americans.
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I wish there was a way that each could live the consequences of their own personal viewpoint. You guys could live in a world where the soldier does exist and it not affect anyone but you. Too bad this is a fantasy. You guys get the benefit of holding them in contempt and live under the very freedoms the soldier provides. How lucky for you.


The fantasy is in your thinking that psychopathic soldiers like Chris Kyle benefit my safety. They increase my likelihood of encountering danger, and the likelihood that there will be terrorist blowback. But the peace movement will keep carrying on fighting for the freedoms that they have always had to fight for despite conservative obstruction. And you get the benefit. How lucky for you.
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He was a deeply biased and racist man, who had a xenophobic hatred of non-Americans. His killing was motivated out of a sheer pleasure in killing 'savages'....


I challenge you to quote where in the book it shows him to be racist and to have a xenophobic hatred of non-Americans.

The first three pages make it crystal clear.
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Who is stopping you from implementing this oh so simple solution?

Lack of authority. It is not my country. We implemented it in Ireland. As an Irishman I backed it fully. As a journalist I was able to campaign for it. I don't live in the Middle East. What's stopping you do something? Unlike Ireland, America has butted it, and quite aggressively.
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But the peace movement will keep carrying on fighting for the freedoms that they have always had to fight for despite conservative obstruction. And you get the benefit. How lucky for you.


The peace movement has never fought for anything!

Cowards do not fight!
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He was a deeply biased and racist man, who had a xenophobic hatred of non-Americans. His killing was motivated out of a sheer pleasure in killing 'savages'....


I challenge you to quote where in the book it shows him to be racist and to have a xenophobic hatred of non-Americans.

The first three pages make it crystal clear.


Is that a quote? You do know a quote when you see one don't you?
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Who is stopping you from implementing this oh so simple solution?

Lack of authority. It is not my country. We implemented it in Ireland. As an Irishman I backed it fully. As a journalist I was able to campaign for it. I don't live in the Middle East. What's stopping you do something? Unlike Ireland, America has butted it, and quite aggressively.



If you think that what worked in Ireland will necessarily work elsewhere, I think your argument rests on a faulty assumption.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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... Unlike Ireland, America has butted it, and quite aggressively.


Yes, it was established earlier that Ireland doesn't like to butt in. But apparently, they're very contrite about it later.
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