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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
I want one of those!
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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TonyB2009 Inner circle 5006 Posts |
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On Feb 4, 2015, Dannydoyle wrote: I am so sorry Danny. I didn't realize that if we weren't among the three people involved in the writing of this book, we couldn't discuss the specifics. Funny how this objection doesn't apply to the people whom you agree with. I have noticed that before about a certain class of American. Your First Amendment only applies to pro-Yankee sentiments.
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w_s_anderson Inner circle The United States 1226 Posts |
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On Feb 4, 2015, TonyB2009 wrote: Your assumption is correct. The publication never went forward, in fact, the company that tried to do it no longer exists. (Veterans Entertainment Group) I will say though that the rewrite that was sent back to me definitely had "words put in my mouth." |
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rockwall Special user 762 Posts |
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On Feb 4, 2015, Devious wrote: Pretty frickin awesome! |
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TonyB2009 Inner circle 5006 Posts |
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On Feb 4, 2015, w_s_anderson wrote: You would have had ample opportunity to take those words out! And he shouldn't have put them in. The first book I ghosted the publisher brought in a second ghost to punch things up a bit, and the guy whose story we were telling hit the roof, because the second ghost added her own stuff to his story. In the end my version was the one published, because what the subject of the book wants is what goes into the book. It's a shame yours never went ahead, because I think there would have been a good book in your experiences, from what I have seen on your website.
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rockwall Special user 762 Posts |
I wonder when many here became the thought police. You aren't a hero unless your 'thoughts' align with mine. Regardless of what you did, if I find something objectionable about how you 'felt' about what you were doing or if you're not quite PC enough for me, sorry, you're no longer a hero, you're a dirtbag. What's more objectionable, someone who believes in what they are doing and does the best he can at it or someone who believes what they are doing is wrong and 'evil' but does it anyway.
I see a great Monty Python skit here. Sir, thank you for saving the school children from the terrorists that held them hostage. But before we thank you, we need to ask you a few questions. Did you enjoy saving them? Did you enjoy killing the terrorists? How did you 'feel' about the terrorists? Were they just misunderstood or did you think they were animals? |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
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On Feb 4, 2015, TonyB2009 wrote: Try reading please. I said NOBODY knows. Not either side. I also have not expressed an opinion either way on Chris. Just read.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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balducci Loyal user Canada 227 Posts |
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On Feb 4, 2015, w_s_anderson wrote: I was sort of wondering what the group was. The way you originally described it, it did not sound like a reputable publishing house to me. It sounded rather like one of the predatory publishing houses that have been in the news of late, that mainly target academics. Do you know if Veterans Entertainment Group ever actually published any of the stories from soldiers? And how they made their money?
Make America Great Again! - Trump in 2020 ... "We're a capitalistic society. I go into business, I don't make it, I go bankrupt. They're not going to bail me out. I've been on welfare and food stamps. Did anyone help me? No." - Craig T. Nelson, actor.
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balducci Loyal user Canada 227 Posts |
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On Feb 4, 2015, rockwall wrote: I think there is no one size fits all answer to that question. An accomplished ISIS terrorist falls into the first category, for instance. So does a Priest of any religion who lives an honourable life, doing good works.
Make America Great Again! - Trump in 2020 ... "We're a capitalistic society. I go into business, I don't make it, I go bankrupt. They're not going to bail me out. I've been on welfare and food stamps. Did anyone help me? No." - Craig T. Nelson, actor.
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Payne Inner circle Seattle 4571 Posts |
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On Feb 3, 2015, rockwall wrote: The stories of soldiers being spat on by war protestors are myths and urban legend. http://www.vvaw.org/veteran/article/?id=350 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1276799/posts http://www.amazon.com/The-Spitting-Image......14751474
"America's Foremost Satirical Magician" -- Jeff McBride.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Without clicking on the links I ask seriously? I had always heard those and assumed it happened. Interesting. I will have to investigate that.
Thank you. Something I never would have thought to investigate.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
I can only speak from personal experience. In 1969, while I was in the service and on leave, I went to visit my brother in Atlanta where he was going to college at Oglethorpe.
My brother was a full blown hippie at the time. And I was in full uniform when we took a walk through downtown Atlanta. We were quite a sight, I guess. When we walked through one area, I DID get spit on by anti-war protesters who chanted "baby killer" at me. But when we walked through the business district, it was my brother who got dirty looks from a lot of people who called him a "dirty hippie draft dodger." And he was spit on as well. There was a lot of spitting going on back then. |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Yes I have heard similar accounts Bob. And I am sorry that happened not only to you but to your brother. It is a great illustration of it being wrong on both accounts.
Not Americas first hour in either case.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
So perhaps it's the claim that the spitting on soldiers was an urban legend was actually itself the urban legend.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
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On Feb 5, 2015, mastermindreader wrote: You must be misremembering, Bob. According to Payne's source, "The truth is that nobody spat on Vietnam veterans."
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
Nobody ever asked me, or I would have told them they were wrong. Why do people think that we'd wear civilian clothes as much as possible in the States?
The Army and Marine guys had it worse. I was Navy and actually wondered why they'd want to spit on a sailor, given our cool bell-bottoms and salty swaggers. |
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
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On Feb 4, 2015, Dannydoyle wrote: That was the irony of it. We were brothers then, and we're brothers still. But people didn't see that, they just saw what we were wearing. |
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ed rhodes Inner circle Rhode Island 2885 Posts |
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On Feb 4, 2015, rockwall wrote: I'm sorry, I have trouble equating a person who said it was "fun to kill" with heroism. If he did this without offical sanction, he'd be considered a serial killer.
"...and if you're too afraid of goin' astray, you won't go anywhere." - Granny Weatherwax
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Mystification Special user 571 Posts |
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On Feb 5, 2015, ed rhodes wrote: It is a mindset some of them developed to deal with the fact that their job required them to kill people. |
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rockwall Special user 762 Posts |
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On Feb 5, 2015, ed rhodes wrote: I'm sorry, you probably don't realize that when you put quotes around something like, "fun to kill", that generally means you are quoting the guys exact words. I think you're going to have a bit of trouble finding that exact quote. |
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