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Memory-Jah Inner circle Germany 1438 Posts |
Hello everybody,
my goal for 2015 is to seriously getting into trade show magic/business. I know that I need certain things like a podium and a sound system. Are there any experienced trade show performers here who could chime in and help out? I have no idea what else I need, and more importantly what to look out for when buying these things. 1. So what sound system is recommended and what should it have? I hear that a headset with a very thing microphone running alone your cheek to your mouth is good. What about a (the?) speaker? 2. What podium is recommended by you experienced people. Anything or rather any features it should definitely have? 3. What else do I need? Since I am from Germany I might not get the very same product you might be recommending for me, but as soon I know what specifics, features, etc all items/devices should have, I can look around for those here in Germany/Europe. I am really appriciating any help. Regards, Markus
"Dropping your pants while you set off flash paper may allow your pass to go undetected, but it's still not invisible." - Count Elmsley
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Mindpro Eternal Order 10587 Posts |
In most of the trade shows I've ever done I have the client or their builder construct the podium per the requirements in my rider. Same for the sound system, although I also have several of my own to bring if needed. Always be sure to check with the promoter or convention services as to their rules, policies and specs if sound is permitted even at all. Never assume and be sure due diligence is done either by yourself or the booking client.
What you'll need depends on varying factors including your type of presentation, booth space, policies, and the venue. Just be sure to clearly state everything exactly as you need it and it's best to have your own set of spec, layout and staging specs for everything from the presentation area, podium, platform, sound, video, projection, power, table(s), premiums, storage, supplies, staffing assistance and all other needs. I hope this helps. |
Memory-Jah Inner circle Germany 1438 Posts |
I am simply looking for a device which is portable, is a speaker where I can use wireless microphone/headset with which is good for doing magic at a trade show booth so everyone can understand me.
And I need some sort of podium or stool or I don't know what is best here, so people can see me? I do not know what is best here, that's why I am asking. As said: standard trade show stuff infron of a stand/booth. Regards, Markus
"Dropping your pants while you set off flash paper may allow your pass to go undetected, but it's still not invisible." - Count Elmsley
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gothike Elite user 463 Posts |
Mindpro has excellent advice but your too blind to see it.
DPA 4088f headset $600, Sennheiser G3 $500. 2 QSC K10 $1,500. That is the top of the line sound. Should cover 1,000 of people to less than 10.
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Christian Dux Regular user 104 Posts |
Hi Markus
Take a look at this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38BkWlmhMyw&feature=youtu.be There is one used "PLAT-FORMER" by DAVE PAVLOV for sale at magic auction.com. Cheers, Christian |
corpmagi Special user New York 725 Posts |
A Modern Trade Show Handbook
www.trafficstoppers.com/handbook |
lou serrano Special user Los Angeles, CA 671 Posts |
I'll give a thumbs up to Seth Kramer's handbook. It really is the best resource on trade show magic. In my opinion, it's worth much more than the asking price.
Lou Serrano |
gothike Elite user 463 Posts |
The sound system equipment I recommended is top of the line.
The issue as Mindpro stated is tradeshow policies. Some don't allow sound amplification, others only up to a certain db, some you can't block isles or disturb your neighbor. Some performers just project their voice. Your best bet with equipment is to visit a proud io shop because only a small percentage of people in this forum are knowledgeable in sound equipment. Most just end up recommending HappyAmp.
Control your Show Music from a PC from 800 ft away with a remote control. Send me a message to find out how......
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Mindpro Eternal Order 10587 Posts |
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On Jan 27, 2015, gothike wrote: Man, ain't that the absolute truth! |
corpmagi Special user New York 725 Posts |
[quote]On Jan 26, 2015, Mindpro wrote:
In most of the trade shows I've ever done I have the client or their builder construct the podium per the requirements in my rider. Same for the sound system, although I also have several of my own to bring if needed. Always be sure to check with the promoter or convention services as to their rules, policies and specs if sound is permitted even at all. Never assume and be sure due diligence is done either by yourself or the booking client. MindPro's advice is good, however, there will be times when a clients' budget has no room to build a custom podium or rent a sound system at the grossly inflated trade show AV supplier rate. That's a money making opportunity for you as you can either rent your client the equipment for the show, or build the rental cost into you performance fee offering a turnkey package.
A Modern Trade Show Handbook
www.trafficstoppers.com/handbook |
Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
The problem nobody has mentioned is that you can get into places where the rules won't allow you to bring in your own equipment at all. Or they have to inspect it and test it. Sometimes it is not as easy as showing up and plugging in.
Having customers build rent to suit is the easiest solution. Also I think it is a tougher sell to tell them you will rent them equipment. It seems to me as if you are just jacking up prices. I know all the theories but generally once you are at trade show level you are dealing with something different than a birthday party mom. Just an Opinion. But the miniscule amount made on equipment rental vs how it makes you look is not worth it to me.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
corpmagi Special user New York 725 Posts |
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On Jan 28, 2015, Dannydoyle wrote: I've done 500+ trade shows over the past 30 years and I've yet to be told that I couldn't bring/ship equipment for my show. Yes. It's true that some shows don't allow sound systems at all and others that regulate decibels and even wireless channel frequencies. The truth is, clients like it if you can save them money, especially when budget is an issue. In a huge booth, there is generally no problem having the client custom build to match the booth and build the sound into the design.
A Modern Trade Show Handbook
www.trafficstoppers.com/handbook |
Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
I have gone into union run hotels in Chicago that required inspection of equipment. Decorators union often is involved in almost anything you do in the Rosemont expo center.
Point is that there are MANY rules at some places. The client will know what those rules are.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
charliecheckers Inner circle 1969 Posts |
I am unfamiliar with this market. Is there a wide range of what may be considered to be included in the "trade show" market? If so, would this be a factor in ones perceptions of what to expect in terms of the various rules and regulations?
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Mindpro Eternal Order 10587 Posts |
The trade show market is a professional market, and unfortunately many performers are more used to consumer markets, especially the majority of magicians. Trade shows, like most professional markets, have it own unique set of rules and approaches, often misperceived by those outside the market itself.
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Joe S. Loyal user Los Angeles, CA 272 Posts |
4 things:
1. Buy Seth's eBook. BUY IT NOW!!! 2. The Sennheiser G3 wireless system is the best transmitter around. I use it in ALL my shows now, from 30 ppl to 300+ Get the 112-p, which is fine for tradeshow and small-midsized theaters. I use mine for audiences of 30 - 750 with no problems. Sweetwater, GuitarCenter, and others have the best prices. http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/EW112PG3-A 3. For a headset mic, I seriously recommend Countryman. The sound quality is amazing, even outdoors in high wind, and the feedback rejection is superb. It's not just the best, but when you purchase directly from them, you get world-class customer service. They go the extra mile. Countryman: http://www.countryman.com/e6-earset 4. For a small booth speaker solution, I use the Fender P-10. It's perfect for a 10x10. If they need something larger, let THEM handle it and deal with the hassles. ;-) Good luck! |
G. Batson Regular user 147 Posts |
The first thing you need to do is understand the difference between a podium and a lectern.
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
I want to suggest Memory-jah do your homework before trying to sell your services. You questions suggest you have not researched what trade shows are and how to work them.
You don't need a podium, you need a foldable stand, they are sold by trade show companies. A small sound system is best for travel and Trade Shows. Your table should be 42" high, with a full length shelf below the table top. Why, because every Industrial Trade Show is different. Some do not allow sound systems at all. You could contact Dick Stoner and see if he will give the company name of the company that make the table. He has been doing industrial trade show for 60 years. He does carry a small sound system that he regular uses at his trade shows. It is true that many companies will build a stage and table set up for you to present you pitch. It is then designed into their display design. Today you need to have your trick script and product messages typed to present to them. They do not want you to say the wrong thing. You have to build your patter around their value points of their products. Trade shows are usually booked a year in advance. So plan to not actually work until late 2016, because you are very late to get any dates for any sooner. Some companies do not pay for up to one year, your fees. So plan on having some money to start. You will also need at least 5 business suites, because you can work up to 5 days, and usually go to dinner with the client at least on night. There is 2 books by Trade Show magician that were published some years ago. I suggest you find them and you will get an idea of what a trade show magician pitchman role is in this business. |
Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
The interesting part is the roll of a trade show magician might not necessarily be the same as other types of performers.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
fsharp New user 76 Posts |
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On Feb 9, 2015, Dannydoyle wrote: Of course a trade show show magician has a different role than other performers... and that's our unique selling point compared to other trade show attractions. A trade show magician can attract the crowds, inform them about the company (in an entertaining way), qualify leads if required, collect leads, and potentially also hand out giveaways. Pretty comprehensive really as a service, and great value for the companies we represent. |
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