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Magic Man 997 New user 34 Posts |
When performing a cups and ball or a chop cup routine is it necessary to end with a surprise object bigger/different that the balls used in the routine? In most routines you end with the appearance of an object that is about as large as you can fit in the cup. Most people want to end the routine with a climax, what are some creative ways to end a routine besides a large final load?
I can think of some ways: ~David Regal has a way to produce liquid at the end of a chop cup routine. ~Jason Latimer reveals the cups to seemingly have been solid the whole time. ~You can produce an object to use in your next routine like a deck of cards (a more meaningful final load) Feel free to add other ways you could end the trick. ~Tyler L |
tomsk192 Inner circle 3894 Posts |
Two of the three examples you give are in fact final loads.
I'm not sure why you would want to ditch the moment that most acknowledge as being the high point of the trick? |
Magic Man 997 New user 34 Posts |
I do not want to get rid of the high point of the trick. I was looking for other things that could effectively end the trick at a high point that isn't a typical final load (a bigger ball). I know some of what I listed could be considered a final load, but they're way different than a larger ball shaped object.
Murrary talked in his penguin live lecture about how he was given advice on his cd act. He was told to take the climax of the routine and make it the beginning and then add a new climax even more spectacular at the end. Then to repeat the process until he had a routine full of climaxes then he'd have a great routine. Instead of a routine with 1 high point at the end he had a routine with high points throughout. He followed the advice and ended up with an award-winning routine that was commercial and allowed him to travel the world. I don't want to get rid of the final load I just wanted to discuss other possible high points that could be used somewhere in a routine. |
funsway Inner circle old things in new ways - new things in old ways 9982 Posts |
The key is the word "end"
It has been an evolving tradition to signal the end of the routine with dramatic production, either something large or completely discordant with the previous productions. Possibly this came about from a desire to separate C&B from entertainment from Thimble-Riggers and con artists. It has not always been so. It is possible to seque from a C&B routine into another effect without a final load -- since the flow of the magic continues. Changing to a Chop Cup modality is one way, perhaps followed by some effects with the balls with no Cup at all. Having a story accompanying the routine can allow for an ending without a weird final load. Always think of "the story told after." What do you want the audience to remember?
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ROBERT BLAKE Inner circle 1472 Posts |
Show 3 cups and make 3 balls appear - then the routine and you end with the vanish of the three balls. it makes a complete circle.
or if you use three red balls en with three green balls. sames size. the suprize in the climax is the important part not the size of the balls. tommy wonder' finale is the pompom and the bag / complete circle again. |
Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
This topic has already been done to death.
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......orum=115 Do a search on "Final Load," and you will find things you have never even dreamt of. Remember, whatever the last item you produce is -- it is, BY DEFINITION, the Final Load.
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