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wizardofsorts Special user Chicago, IL 935 Posts |
Has anyone here tried getting brochures printed at Office Max? We need some full color brochures done in a small number in a short amount of time. Any other suggestions of where to get them? What are the prices? Thanks,
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Jim Snack Inner circle 1338 Posts |
What's a small number...100...1000..5000? Are you talking about tri-fold brochures?
For 100 copies, digital color laser printing is the way to go. Check around for prices. We have a local shop, "The Printing Outlet," that often offers a special on color 81/2' x11" color copies - $.19 each. Can't beat that. |
wizardofsorts Special user Chicago, IL 935 Posts |
Well yeah, a small number is 100 (or less). I can get 250 of them pretty cheap online but it takes too long. So, I was hopeing to have some made to fill the time before the on line order comes in. Thanks, Jim. $.19, that's incredably cheap. I've paid as much as .89 a piece for full color copies.
Edd
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magic4u02 Eternal Order Philadelphia, PA 15110 Posts |
Jim is right. If your going to do a limited run and if you are going to have the brochure in full color, then digital printing is the best way for you to go.
It will provide you wil decent quality at a price that is right for you. Most offset places will not do a limited run like that so digital is the means in which to get high quality printing done at a great price for you. You really just need to shop around. there are many places online that do digital printing and there are more in your local area that will also do digital printing. Places like Kinkos will even do that type of thing. The best thing to do is shop around. But do NOT just send in your stuff site unseen. Although many places do digital printing, not all printers are the same and every place does different work. You will want to ask for free printed samples to be sent over to you. Any professional place will do this for you at no cost to you at all. They want your business and this is a way for you to be sure of the quality you are getting. When I design stuff for my clients, I always ask for printed samples and speek with the techs there to make sure on how they need my files etc. Knowing all of this upfront, will save you a lot of time later down the road. If you have any further questions regarding sesign, printers etc., please PM me. I would be happy to help you out on this. Kyle
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Jim Snack Inner circle 1338 Posts |
Kyle makes some excellent points. Not all printers are created the same. When you start asking around, particularly among designers, you will quickly find out who are the best printers in your area. When you find a high quality shop, stick with it.
Keep your eyes open for specials to bring you in the door. The $.19 per copy was for single sided digital color on a fairly cheap paper. I would always have it printed double sided on a heavier, better quality paper, raising the cost to around $.50/page. Go to Kinkos and you'll spend twice that. |
wizardofsorts Special user Chicago, IL 935 Posts |
Yeah, I spent alittle more then that but I needed them fairly quickly and I like using the local shop around the corner. They are good guys and are independantly owned. Anyway, it reminds me of a sign I saw in a procution studio once. It said, "Cheap, Fast, Good, Choose two." I needed them fast and good, so I didn't get them cheap but I don't think I paid way too much. Thanks for your advice guys. The Magic Café really is an odd place. People actually do help each other.
Edd
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Jim Snack Inner circle 1338 Posts |
The "Cheap, Fast, Good, Choose two" sign reminds me of something I teach in one of my seminars about the three things people consider for when shopping: Quality, Service and Price.
It used to be true that you could go to market by meeting only two of these requirements. People would pay a little more if the quality and service was a little better. Or they would accept inferior quality if the price was low enough, but service was good. Today that has changed. Most consumers want and expect all three, and they will shop around until they find them. Unfortunately that often cuts out the smaller, independent shops that have difficulty competing with the larger retail giants that often get larger wholesale discounts from manufacturers. Unfortunately, they end up only carrying the most popular products, and consumer selection declines. Good luck trying to find a specialty hardware item at Home Depot. A similar thing is happening with online magic shops. Because they don't have the overhead of a brick and morter shop, they can offer bigger discounts. Eventually this could put the brick and morter shops out of business, something I would hate to see happen. For this reason, I support independent businesses (like myself) and will often pay a little more to my independent shops - like my local bookstore. I don't want to see them go out of business. I know this is a bit off topic, but I encourage all magicians, particularly anyone new to magic, to support the brick and morter shops, (as well as the Café advertisers!) |
Steve Hart Veteran user Cocoa, FL 388 Posts |
May I make a suggestion?
I would avoid a tri-fold brochure. Here is why. If your brochure is placed into a file folder it will get lost. Since it is so short it will not stick out at the top of the folder when people go back to look you up. Instead I would use a "One Sheet" printed on both the front and back. Don't fold it. Mail it in a large envelope. It will stand out over the other mail. Steve Hart Cape Canaveral, FL USA
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magic4u02 Eternal Order Philadelphia, PA 15110 Posts |
I must agree with Steve. As a designer, I have often run into this problem for clients. The one sheets work much better for this pruprose. It looks more professional and not having folds in the pice, also makes it stand out better and look more professional.
If you place it in a nice envelope, then it will stand out in the mail and will require people to want to open it as opposed to getting lost with other number 10 size envelopes. Another suggestion is to use a folder and have numerous one sheets for different markets you do or for client listings or comments or a bio page. Print them up on your stationary and customize each mailing you do. This looks professional and adds value to you and your mailings. Kyle
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Jon Gallagher Veteran user Elmwood, Illinois 395 Posts |
To answer the question specifically about Office Max, I use our local Office Max for all my printing. I've become a regular customer, so they know me by sight (and usually the people behind the counter have to see "something" before they'll talk printing with me).
Having said that, your local Office Max is only going to be as good as the people running it. The manager of ours has been there a LONG time and can do just about anything I take to her. I stopped by another Office Max when I was out of town to get just a few copies of something I was using on that trip and found them to be pretty close to incompetent. Because I've built a business relationship with my own Office Max, I did their Christmas party last year, and they give me a good break on price because they know I'm coming to them for whatever I need. In fact, the relationship is so good, they put me ahead of other orders if need be (that's never happened, but they offered to do it). Whomever you use, make sure you develop a relationship with them. You'll be glad in the long run. -Jon |
magic4u02 Eternal Order Philadelphia, PA 15110 Posts |
Developing a relationship with your printer is really a must if you want to get the best work and qaulity from them. It also is important to do your homework and ask them questions. Remember that NO TWO PRINTERS ARE ALIKE.
This is so true. Every printer has their own styles and ways of doing things. There are also numerous methods of printing and each of these methods are vastly different in the final outcome and price your going to pay. Feel free to ask them questions. They expect you to any ways and they are used to it. Ask them about their processes and have them educate you on the differences. Let them show you samples of the various methods and techniques they do. Any printer will be happy to do this for you at no cost to you. This way you become educated in the process and can find ways to get a great quality product for a little amount of money. Hope this is of help to you. Kyle
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ufo Inner circle Phoenix, Arizona 1185 Posts |
Printers are like agents. Some care and some...well, don't...at all. Find that printer that can give time to understand you and your "thing" and it will always be well with you in layout land.
Might I recommend Keith Stump of Clairmont Printing in California. They do outstanding full color work in both the design stage and the final poroduct. High rolling pieces that wont starve your rabbit.
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