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From Stephen Minch's The Hermetic Press "Stylebook":

"With nouns that end with s in the singular, the same logic is followed. Therefore, one
does not write, “Karl Fulve’s Self-Working Card Tricks”, unless the author of that work is
a single Fulve. The man’s name is Fulves; therefore, “Karl Fulves’ Self-working Card
Tricks [bold mine!]
or “Karl Fulves’s Self-working Card Tricks. (Both styles shown here are
acceptable,
but only one style should be used consistently within a work.) It follows that,
if Mr. Fulves were to make this book a family project, we would then have “the
Fulveses’ Self-working Card Tricks” and a hint of congenital derangement."

Final apostrophe, here I come, baby!
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I suspect that Strunk and White beat Minch to it . . . by decades.
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Well Lobo and Magnus will have to remind me properly, but as I remember it, I was made to eat crow and submit to the purveyors of the atrocity of "Fulves's" for the last few years. Smile
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Actually, it should be Karl Fulves’ Self-working Card Tricks.
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Agreed!
(Is this our Kumbaya moment, K?)
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Ahhh the bliss of ignorance. So happy to be so ignorant so these things never bother me.
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"Karl Fulves’ Self-working Card Tricks" is what it ain't.

Karl Fulves

SELF-WORKING CARD TRICKS


Is what it is.

Karl Fulves is not claiming they are his tricks.
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.

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No, that's why you need the italics. It's his book.
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But wait, why not Self-Working Card Tricks? Is the hyphen that powerful?
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No, but the book titled "Self-working Card Tricks" belongs to Mr. Fulves (because he wrote it).

And I prefer "Fulves's" over "Fulves'." I think the second means that the book was written by more than one person, each of whose name was "Fulve."
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But not if his name is actually 'Fulves'.
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I'll settle this...

Ralph Gironda's Self-working Card Tricks.
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On Feb 13, 2015, landmark wrote:
Well Lobo and Magnus will have to remind me properly, but as I remember it, I was made to eat crow and submit to the purveyors of the atrocity of "Fulves's" for the last few years. Smile


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I'll drink to that.
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On Feb 13, 2015, 0pus wrote:

And I prefer "Fulves's" over "Fulves'." I think the second means that the book was written by more than one person, each of whose name was "Fulve."

True, but the aesthetics of it suck. I mean, try to say it.
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On Feb 13, 2015, landmark wrote:
From Stephen Minch's The Hermetic Press "Stylebook":

"With nouns that end with s in the singular, the same logic is followed. Therefore, one
does not write, “Karl Fulve’s Self-Working Card Tricks”, unless the author of that work is
a single Fulve. The man’s name is Fulves; therefore, “Karl Fulves’ Self-working Card
Tricks [bold mine!]
or “Karl Fulves’s Self-working Card Tricks. (Both styles shown here are
acceptable,
but only one style should be used consistently within a work.) It follows that,
if Mr. Fulves were to make this book a family project, we would then have “the
Fulveses’ Self-working Card Tricks” and a hint of congenital derangement."

Final apostrophe, here I come, baby!

I don't get it. You mean there are people who didn't know that?
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One of the running gags/issues here has been between myself, Lobo , and others concerning the possessive apostrophe when a word ends in "s." I always maintained that a construction like "Dickens's novels" was unbearably brutish and uncivilized to the ear. They countered strongly, and said that it was the correct way. I acquiesced, and have for the past few years followed their approach. But, now, I see Minch agrees with what I originally thought, so I thought I would mention it.
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On Feb 13, 2015, landmark wrote:
One of the running gags/issues here has been between myself, Lobo , and others concerning the possessive apostrophe when a word ends in "s." I always maintained that a construction like "Dickens's novels" was unbearably brutish and uncivilized to the ear. They countered strongly, and said that it was the correct way. I acquiesced, and have for the past few years followed their approach. But, now, I see Minch agrees with what I originally thought, so I thought I would mention it.

Ahh I see. Thanks landmark.
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I've just written a little essay about Stephen Minch's Hermetic Press Stylebook. The Stylebook is fascinating! It's an amusing and enlightening look at all kinds of questions with which magic writers need to be familiar. If you're a participant in this thread, I am sure you will enjoy his little booklet. To read my essay, and find the link to download and read Stephen Minch's Hermetic Press Stylebook for free, go to:

http://jackshalom.net/2015/02/14/would-h......housand/
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