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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
From Stephen Minch's The Hermetic Press "Stylebook":
"With nouns that end with s in the singular, the same logic is followed. Therefore, one does not write, “Karl Fulve’s Self-Working Card Tricks”, unless the author of that work is a single Fulve. The man’s name is Fulves; therefore, “Karl Fulves’ Self-working Card Tricks [bold mine!] or “Karl Fulves’s Self-working Card Tricks. (Both styles shown here are acceptable, but only one style should be used consistently within a work.) It follows that, if Mr. Fulves were to make this book a family project, we would then have “the Fulveses’ Self-working Card Tricks” and a hint of congenital derangement." Final apostrophe, here I come, baby!
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S2000magician Inner circle Yorba Linda, CA 3465 Posts |
I suspect that Strunk and White beat Minch to it . . . by decades.
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
Well Lobo and Magnus will have to remind me properly, but as I remember it, I was made to eat crow and submit to the purveyors of the atrocity of "Fulves's" for the last few years.
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Kabbalah Inner circle 1621 Posts |
Actually, it should be Karl Fulves’ Self-working Card Tricks.
"Long may magicians fascinate and continue to be fascinated by the mystery potential in a pack of cards."
~Cliff Green "The greatest tricks ever performed are not done at all. The audience simply think they see them." ~ John Northern Hilliard |
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
Agreed!
(Is this our Kumbaya moment, K?)
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Ahhh the bliss of ignorance. So happy to be so ignorant so these things never bother me.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
"Karl Fulves’ Self-working Card Tricks" is what it ain't.
Karl Fulves SELF-WORKING CARD TRICKS Is what it is. Karl Fulves is not claiming they are his tricks.
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
No, that's why you need the italics. It's his book.
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
But wait, why not Self-Working Card Tricks? Is the hyphen that powerful?
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0pus Inner circle New Jersey 1739 Posts |
No, but the book titled "Self-working Card Tricks" belongs to Mr. Fulves (because he wrote it).
And I prefer "Fulves's" over "Fulves'." I think the second means that the book was written by more than one person, each of whose name was "Fulve." |
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Tom Jorgenson Inner circle LOOSE ANGLES, CALIFORNIA 4451 Posts |
But not if his name is actually 'Fulves'.
We dance an invisible dance to music they cannot hear.
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Kabbalah Inner circle 1621 Posts |
I'll settle this...
Ralph Gironda's Self-working Card Tricks.
"Long may magicians fascinate and continue to be fascinated by the mystery potential in a pack of cards."
~Cliff Green "The greatest tricks ever performed are not done at all. The audience simply think they see them." ~ John Northern Hilliard |
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts |
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On Feb 13, 2015, landmark wrote: Not me. I can't even spell whiskie.
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
I'll drink to that.
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
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On Feb 13, 2015, 0pus wrote: True, but the aesthetics of it suck. I mean, try to say it.
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magicfish Inner circle 7004 Posts |
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On Feb 13, 2015, landmark wrote: I don't get it. You mean there are people who didn't know that? |
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One of the running gags/issues here has been between myself, Lobo , and others concerning the possessive apostrophe when a word ends in "s." I always maintained that a construction like "Dickens's novels" was unbearably brutish and uncivilized to the ear. They countered strongly, and said that it was the correct way. I acquiesced, and have for the past few years followed their approach. But, now, I see Minch agrees with what I originally thought, so I thought I would mention it.
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magicfish Inner circle 7004 Posts |
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On Feb 13, 2015, landmark wrote: Ahh I see. Thanks landmark. |
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
I've just written a little essay about Stephen Minch's Hermetic Press Stylebook. The Stylebook is fascinating! It's an amusing and enlightening look at all kinds of questions with which magic writers need to be familiar. If you're a participant in this thread, I am sure you will enjoy his little booklet. To read my essay, and find the link to download and read Stephen Minch's Hermetic Press Stylebook for free, go to:
http://jackshalom.net/2015/02/14/would-h......housand/
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