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On Feb 14, 2015, mastermindreader wrote:
No. I just was questioning your inference that the second amendment would permit you to shoot drunk drivers.

Otherwise why would you state that the example given in the OP somehow shows why we need second amendment rights?

So, again, are you suggesting that we shoot drunk drivers who are driving dangerously? Do you really think that's what the police would do if they were able to show up in seconds rather than minutes?


Perhaps my response wasn't clear.

My statement was a response to the 911 system and police responsibility in general...not this particular incident.

I certainly did not mean to imply that drunk drivers should be shot.

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Our 911 system here is pretty stupid as well. About a month ago I was leaving for work, about 2:45 in the morning. As I was heading to my car I see 3 kids about a half a block away looking in the windows of cars in driveways. So I call 911, After a few rings I get a recording, for english press 1 for spanish press 2, ok, pressed 1, then the recording says if this is an emercency press 1, if it's not hang up and call the non-emercency number. Then I can't get the keyboard to pop up on the screen, so it keeps repeating the message. I hang up and call the non-emercency number, 1 ring and I get a dispatcher who took the discription and dispatched a cop.
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Where do you live? Is it a rural area? Your keypad does not pop up and you blame the system?

Also are you willing to pay the extra taxes it would take to get the system to where you think it is perfect?
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I live in Eugene Oregon, and no I don't blame the system for my keypad not popping up, it was my phone acting up. All I'm saying is I called 911 and had to go through a recording before I got an actual person. The last time I called 911, which was years ago, I got the dispatcher right away.
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But my point is it costs money to put people there to answer as quickly as you seem to want. It costs a LOT of money in reality to constantly upgrade systems, hire people and train them. This translates into taxes. Most places try to strike up a balance between need and peoples appetite for tax burden. This is not an easy balance to strike.

Add to that the little issue of calling from a cell phone, which many people do now, and you have systems not quite keeping pace with technology. Not your fault mind you, not anything to do with you. I would think the same thing when I called ESPECIALLY if it was an emergency! I agree with you. I am just putting forth the other side is all. Not bashing you or your experience.
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Point well taken. My cell phone is one of the cheaper ones. I work for the city and in the news letters, I see that there is a huge turnover with the 911 operators. They usually work over 50 hours a week, and the stress that they are under must be unreal. As for the money end to upgrade the system, this is the first time in about 8 years that the city will not have to make any budget cuts.
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Yea we sort of took 911 for granted for a LONG time. But cell phone tech, and people sort of moving past land lines really do make that tough to keep up to date.
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Here's the elephant in the room ... We spend billions of dollars a year for 911 service ... It needs to be a service ... Why have 10 million cops if we cant get them to the places they are needed in time? All those police are useless if we can't communicate with them. To me a 911 call can NEVER go to a recording...People dodging bullets, fighting off attackers or in darkened rooms or trunks of cars don't have time to push 1, 2, or 3 and wait for the prompt.
I'm glad I got the woman who answered.... But to go through a loop of people when lives are on the line and end up with the first person again after 13 minutes is a SIN!!!!!!
I gave my exact location, exact direction and speed I was headed (Calling out all cross streets and intersections), the description of the car and the Frikkin' Licence Plate number!!!!!
I would call it a 100% failure...... I'm not sure how to check to see if there were fatalities or injuries after 11 PM in my neighborhood.... But I'm pretty tempted to pursue it.
I've been told that criticizing the 911 system is like dissing the Patriot Act....
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Good point. It is a bit like those alarm bells that go off and that cops ignore.
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I'd like to know why over 80% of the population are religious and haven't learnt to be good and do the right thing.

I thought the idea was to have a better society and then you wouldn't need so many cops.
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I think BEING RELIGIOUS is the problem .... Having true spirituality that carries a positive moral code is the answer.
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I'd like to know why over 80% of the population are religious and haven't learnt to be good and do the right thing.

I thought the idea was to have a better society and then you wouldn't need so many cops.


Way to derail a thread!
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On Feb 15, 2015, Ian McColl wrote:
I'd like to know why over 80% of the population are religious and haven't learnt to be good and do the right thing.

I thought the idea was to have a better society and then you wouldn't need so many cops.


Way to derail a thread!

I was just going to say that....
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On Feb 15, 2015, Kabbalah wrote:
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On Feb 15, 2015, Ian McColl wrote:
I'd like to know why over 80% of the population are religious and haven't learnt to be good and do the right thing.

I thought the idea was to have a better society and then you wouldn't need so many cops.


Way to derail a thread!

I was just going to say that....
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He has an obvious agenda. Whatever. It pass for clever in his world. Let it be .
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He has an obvious agenda. Whatever. It pass for clever in his world. Let it be .
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This is exactly why we need the 2nd amendment.


So you can shoot drunk drivers?

As long as you only wing 'em.
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What if the 911 system is run by idiots??????
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I'm still wondering how it all turned out .... I drive by the crushed up concrete every day.
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