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Important to understand that Pilger's criticism of "liberalism" is a critique from the left of liberalism. Pilger's politics roughly approximates Noam Chomsky's.
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It's not clear exactly what Pilger's target is. I think he means liberalism as in the family of political theories for which the basic unit of worth is the individual--the sense in which all mainstream Western political parties are liberal. (With "neo-liberalism" being the target of many anti-free market thinkers and activists.)
I don't know enough of Pilger to say more.
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After reading a bit of Pilger's work, I'd say he fits into landmark's definition of radical.
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tommy Eternal Order Devil’s Island 16200 Posts
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After reading a bit of Magnus Eisengrim's and Landmark’s work, I'd say it fits the definition of argumentum ad hominem.
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On Feb 16, 2015, tommy wrote: What the hell are you talking about, tommy? I'm trying to make sense of his article. What are you trying to do?
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Government regulated Capitalism, by far.
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tommy Eternal Order Devil’s Island 16200 Posts
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Try reading the substance of the article, old boy, rather than trying to read where Pilger himself stands on the political side and it might you get further in you effort in understanding. Before beginning this exercise, it might also help you to take a relaxing walk in the fresh air.
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On Feb 16, 2015, tommy wrote: I did, old boy. Pilger's article does not offer sufficient substance for evaluation. Placing it in the larger context of his other work helps considerably. More to the point: your charge of ad hominem is nonsense as neither landmark nor I have expressed opinions about the substance of the Pilger article. Neither of us attacked or praised him. Reading. Thinking. They're good.
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tommy Eternal Order Devil’s Island 16200 Posts
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If placing it in the larger context of his other work helps you considerably, my boy, then why are you still trying to make sense of his article?
Your claim that Pilger's article does not offer sufficient substance for evaluation is obviously true for you. More to the point my charge of ad hominem is not nonsense as you say you don't know enough of Pilger to say more about it which shows up your ad hominem thinking.
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LOL tommy, you are so cute when you try to be clever.
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tommy Eternal Order Devil’s Island 16200 Posts
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You walked into the party like you were walking onto a yacht
Your hat strategically dipped below one eye Your scarf it was apricot
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Shall we gavotte, tommy?
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tommy Eternal Order Devil’s Island 16200 Posts
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“The liberal way to run the world - "improve" or we'll kill you”
Ain’t that the truth? Liberals you can’t argue with them. They dictate to you what you’re supposed to believe, what you can or cannot say. It is 1984 doublethink, you see? John of course, he just can’t, he can't get past the doublethink of it and that is why he can’t understand the article. Liberty eh. 
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On Feb 16, 2015, tommy wrote: Perhaps, tommy, if you pull your head out of your rear end for a moment, we can discuss the meaning of the word "liberal" in this context. Then perhaps we can discuss the relevant evidence. And then we could make some informed judgments. But your ad hominem attacks are rather tedious.
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tommy Eternal Order Devil’s Island 16200 Posts
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LOL
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Racism, Chauvinism, unregulated Capitalism, Fascism, Fundamentalism, and Neo-Conservatism.
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FISM
What do we want?
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