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joeKing
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Hey...Im new to spongeball magic and I have recently purchased a great routine that requires the use of the Sanada gimmick...Since this is the first time I have ever used the gimmick (or heard of it for that matter) I really have no idea on how it should fit ...
Thanks...any help is appreciated
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Hello joeKing, Jay Scott Berry marketed the Sanada gimmick under the name "Cloaking device". You can find a thread on this topic Here!

Hope this helps
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Thanks for that link. My first thought was why not call the Sanada a Sanada but the link answered my question and made me interested in the video too.
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In Kenton Kneppers' Little book of Wonders he has a routine where he uses a slightly modified one to give the illusion of smooshing the head of a spoon.
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Kenton also has a very good sponge ball routine on his video close up and unpublished
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Most sponge ball handlings that call for use of the Sanada can be done just as effectively without. Not a big fan . . .
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Just for your information, davidcarlo, the sponge ball routine that mattisdx refers to doesn't in fact use a Sanada Gimmick.

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Dan Garrett uses the Sanada gimmick extensively and I beleive he goes over it's use on his Connivery Series of Videos. I know when I first saw it I wasn't impressed but after seeing it in the hands of a master I realized what an amazing tool it could be.
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Scott Guinn uses this gaff to do a perfectly impossible Bill To Lemon that you may want to check out.
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I must also agree with Necromancer, Scott Guinn's Bill To Lemon is fantastic, easily one of my favorite routines.
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They used to be available through Steven's Magic Emporium.
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You can get a good one by ordering either evan's linking rubber bands, or the effect called "cream" from Hank Lee. They both include this gimmick with the package.
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Although this is probabally the wrong place to post this, it fit in.

I have a Sanada Gimmick complete with 2 or 3 "super softee" multi-colored sponge balls that I will let go for $20 postage-paid in US via PayPal if anyone is interested.

I bought this direct from Bob King's kitchen a few years ago after he COMPLETELY KILLED me effect-wise with this! I should have known better but was a moment of pure magic in his hands...PM me

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Guinn sells his PB & J Routine will all its "equipment" needed (sanada, 3 sponges, purse frame) for $15
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I second the PB&J routine, it is the only sponge ball routine I do, and VERY VERY VERY powerful and commerical.
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On 2004-02-08 11:30, JJP161 wrote:
Dan Garrett uses the Sanada gimmick extensively and I beleive he goes over it's use on his Connivery Series of Videos. I know when I first saw it I wasn't impressed but after seeing it in the hands of a master I realized what an amazing tool it could be.


Dan has a great routine where he produces an egg from the empty hands.

Jay Scott Berry also uses his version of it very effectively. It made me question whether I should get one the other year when I saw him, and I've been aware of it for years.

Paul.
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If your question is about the gimmick itself, here's some thoughts.

There are several experts out there. I certainly don't know them all, but the folks I have seen who really know how to work this gimmick include Jay Scott Berry, Dan Garrett, Bob King.

It is key that you "fit" the gimmick to your hand (fingers). The length (top to bottom) should meet the joints when the finger are "naturally" curved or bent. The width should be fit so the surrounding fingers cover the sides. Use VERY sharp scissors. Depending on the "load" the gimmick can be weak on its centerlind. A strip of strong taps (duct tape) on the backside (inside) will provide some reinforcing.
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Jay Scott Berry's "Cloaking Device" is not the same as the Sanada Gimmick. It is a modified Sanada Gimmick. His modification allows the performer to pre-load the Sanada gimmick. He sells the standard Sanada Gimmick as well as his Cloaking Device and his "FS-2" which is a further amplification of the Sanada.

I saw him demonstrate all of the above last night at his lecture in Houston.
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I love JSB's magic. He is one of the great magic thinkers and performers in all of magic. Watching him perform Symphony of the Ring is almost a religious experience.(How many times have you watched a magic routine and just sat there in awe and said "Now, THAT's real magic"?) His use of the Cloaking Device is equally as strong.

I own both JSB's Cloaking Device and the standard Sanada gimmick. I was certainly interested in Bill Palmer's last post and I'm now wondering if the Cloaking Device and the FS-2 are different from each other? If so, are they so different in methodology or structureso that certain effects can only be accomplished with one and not the other? For instance, is the FS-2 basically just an improvement of the Cloaking Device that merely makes "Cloaking Device magic" easier to perform? Or, if I owned the FS-2, I could do everything I can presently do with the Cloaking Device and then some additional effects that are not achievable w/o the FS-2?

I certainly don't mind buying the FS-2 if it is either a vast improvment of the Cloaking Device or if the FS-2 allows performance of effects not achievable by the Cloaking Device.

Thanks for any info.

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