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That is an interesting question to ponder. But that is more a question of how each creator operates than a measure of quality of the creation. Some creators do share their creations and offer them for sale, because that is part of how they make their living. Others prefer to keep their creations to themselves. A very personal decision that has nothing to do with the effect/creation itself. But to answer your question I would say a definite "I don't know". What Malini would think about digital media and how he would or would not use it is impossible to say.
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As an experienced magician I know how 95% of the tricks are done merely reading the product description. However, my experience has been that I would be missing a lot of the details the creator has included if I stop there. If you think you know how this works, good for you. But I am also pretty sure that you would be missing a couple of the things that Ben has figured out that makes it a lot better. Either way, the description should allow you to decide if this is something you would perform or not. If not then obviously this is not for you and you should not buy it. If this type of effect interests you, then you should get it even if you think you know the basic modus operandi. A lot of the value is contained in the bits of business of how to perform it as well as the technical details.


I agree you make a very valid point there.

Certainly the effect might be quite useful for some. However for most people the Ad should be able to clearly state what exact technology should be available in ones region for this trick to work. But for this particular effect that might not be possible to suggest openly in the Ad.

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And oh yeah, "Wowbound Team", I'm still waiting for updates on what was sold as the BackStory installments that I paid for and that you promised to deliver regularly but have not for nearly two years.


Yes, I would like to know too.
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I represent the largest credit card processor in the world. This is fine for right now, however; technology is going to change by October 2015.
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I represent the largest credit card processor in the world. This is fine for right now, however; technology is going to change by October 2015.


Looks like we work for the same company.

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Time will tell if the change breaks the method or if it improves it. That is the fascinating part when you are on the edge of technology. New opportunities emerge. Those that are willing to explore and be creative will find new ways to entertain.
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Time will tell if the change breaks the method or if it improves it. That is the fascinating part when you are on the edge of technology. New opportunities emerge. Those that are willing to explore and be creative will find new ways to entertain.


Security is such a huge issue in the credit card busines that the technology will not better the effect. I'm not trying to bust anybody's bubble but this particular effect and any like it will probably be obsolete in about 7 months.

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Time will tell if the change breaks the method or if it improves it. That is the fascinating part when you are on the edge of technology. New opportunities emerge. Those that are willing to explore and be creative will find new ways to entertain.


Security is such a huge issue in the credit card busines that the technology will not better the effect. I'm not trying to bust anybody's bubble but this particular effect and any like it will probably be obsolete in about 7 months.

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I'm not convinced about that, look how long it has taken for the US to go EMV, that should finally be in place in about 7 months. The security side is the area I work in and in the last 10 years the only progress has been EMV and 3D Secure, we are still a long way from full coverage on the former and even further on the latter, dropping SDA in favour of DDA has made things a bit more secure but with the push towards mobile payments and NFC, security is going backwards rather than forwards. Although in my job that's not necessarily a bad thing Smile

That said, the proliferation of cardless payments and the widespread marketing of such payments could very well render this as unimpressive as changing a TV channel with your mind would be today.

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Time will tell if the change breaks the method or if it improves it. That is the fascinating part when you are on the edge of technology. New opportunities emerge. Those that are willing to explore and be creative will find new ways to entertain.


Security is such a huge issue in the credit card busines that the technology will not better the effect. I'm not trying to bust anybody's bubble but this particular effect and any like it will probably be obsolete in about 7 months.

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I'm not convinced about that, look how long it has taken for the US to go EMV, that should finally be in place in about 7 months.

Mark


Mark, EMV is not new as you know. The technology in the US wasn't such that they felt comfortable making the move before now. However; I do agree with you that it takes much too long. Certainly your neck of the woods has already been using emv. As Chris said, time will tell. I do think in our country, it will be a bigger issue. I might be wrong. I have been a big fan of Ben since about 1982 so I'm not bashing him.
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Any reviews?

Just curious if Ben has some clever subtleties to hide the basic method? This could be a cool effect if dressed up properly.
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Interested if anyone has actually bought this or tried it out and got it to work?

For me (please correct me if I'm wrong) there are some glaring omissions in the ad copy. It suggests that when you go to pay you don't have to say whether you are paying my cash or card, just "chi". But for the method as I understand it you would have to tell the check out girl that you want to pay by card as the contactless technology isn't turned on until the cashier tells you so how do you get around this with your presentation? I like the idea but "perform anytime, at the drop of a hat" sounds like hyperbole.

Sounds interesting but just look at the non-magic sites where people have adapted their Oyster Cards (train ticket with chip inside plastic card) and taken out the chip and put it in their watch so they can just wave their hands over the ticket gates to gain entry.

Anyone taken the plunge on this one?

ps.....can I pay for this with my mind instead Ben? -:)
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