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Randwill Inner circle 1914 Posts 
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On Mar 18, 2015, S2000magician wrote: How about this: (Slim) Spirits count time differently than human beings. How stupid do you have to be not to know that?!?!?!? (/Slim) |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21245 Posts
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That was at least a good effort. I liked it. Though it did want for a few more capital letters.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts
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"6. Always be prepared with a twist of converstation to change the topic when you are wrong. Never leave yourself without a 'get-out'!
"7. Give them time to forget what they said, before you tell them the same."--Corinda, Step 11: Question and Answer
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21245 Posts
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Yea don't give him that much credit John.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts
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Now Slim is telling us that fear killed Houdini. Funny, I always thought it was septicemia brought on by a ruptured appendix.
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18036 Posts
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Had Houdini simply went to the Dr. he would have been saved ... yet he continued on and did 5 more shows with a 104 degree fever.
What part of that didn't you guys seem to get? He mentally killed himself. A poor decision... in essence FIVE POOR DECISIONS ... Why did he do that? Haunted to Death!!!! That's why 
THE MAN THE SKEPTICS REFUSE TO TEST FOR ONE MILLION DOLLARS.. The Worlds Foremost Authority on Houdini's Life after Death.....
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S2000magician Inner circle Yorba Linda, CA 3465 Posts
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On Mar 19, 2015, Slim King wrote: So you're point is . . . what? . . . that he acted stupidly? We've all seen people do that time and time again; it isn't prima facie evidence of being haunted or cursed. Quote:
On Mar 19, 2015, Slim King wrote: We get that. He acted stupidly. Quote:
On Mar 19, 2015, Slim King wrote: I don't know. Nor, I submit, do you. Quote:
On Mar 19, 2015, Slim King wrote: Non sequitur. |
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18036 Posts
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Now you are beginning to see the light ....
The spirit made a prophecy that totally took Houdini out of his game. The resultant confusion caused Harry to make a series of bad decisions that ultimately lead to his demise. It's a sad situation, but gives us insight into how self-fulfilling prophecies work! Spirits know this and use it to their advantage.
THE MAN THE SKEPTICS REFUSE TO TEST FOR ONE MILLION DOLLARS.. The Worlds Foremost Authority on Houdini's Life after Death.....
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S2000magician Inner circle Yorba Linda, CA 3465 Posts
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On Mar 19, 2015, Slim King wrote: Sorry . . . there's no light to see. |
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Pakar Ilusi Inner circle 5777 Posts
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Slim... You're all kinds of crazy!
Spirits using fear to start the self fulfilling prophecy of him making a bad judgment call, years after they failed to predict his demise! Where do you come up with this stuff? 
"Dreams aren't a matter of Chance but a matter of Choice." -DC-
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18036 Posts
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On Mar 19, 2015, Pakar Ilusi wrote: It's like a movie script .... The spirit threatens Houdini with a prediction of death ... Within a year Houdini is so shook he is releasing it to the public newspapers. Within a year of that he's dead...just like the ghost said. There was no need for Houdini to die of a curable ailment .... but he hesitated....waited.... made poor choices ....and it killed him. Just sad really! Houdini, as all of you experts already know was very superstitious ... He also refused to perform anything dangerous on Friday the 13th!
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ed rhodes Inner circle Rhode Island 2889 Posts
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It was known that Houdini felt he was almost invulnerable and would work through sickness. So he tried to work through "stomach cramps" until he couldn't, by then it was too late. No spirtual influence required.
"...and if you're too afraid of goin' astray, you won't go anywhere." - Granny Weatherwax
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S2000magician Inner circle Yorba Linda, CA 3465 Posts
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On Mar 19, 2015, Slim King wrote: Not, as you yourself pointed out, just like the ghost said. The ghost . . . according to you . . . said within a year. A year later . . . according to you . . . Houdini was very much alive. An honest researcher would admit that he's wrong here. |
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts
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He was counting in ghost years. Every ghost year = ∞.
Click here to get Gerald Deutsch's Perverse Magic: The First Sixteen Years
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18036 Posts
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On Mar 19, 2015, S2000magician wrote: it's obvious by what happened that the Ghost simply overstated his abilities ... I've never said ghosts were omnipotent. They can obviously be wrong ... OR they can "LIE" in order to cause even greater harm later, when someone feels safer. I have no problem with a ghost being wrong ... However ... he did eventually succeed.
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16543 Posts
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Yes that makes perfect sense, just like going to sea in a sieve.
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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S2000magician Inner circle Yorba Linda, CA 3465 Posts
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On Mar 19, 2015, Slim King wrote: So, let me make sure that I have this straight: your proof that a ghost . . . or spirit . . . but evidently masculine in either case . . . caused Houdini's death is that it was wrong (either through incompetence or malice)? It had to be a ghost because it was wrong? How do you take yourself seriously? |
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ed rhodes Inner circle Rhode Island 2889 Posts
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On Mar 19, 2015, Slim King wrote: I'm reminded of Voltare the "goth folksinger." When he was first starting out, he noticed that goth singers would have a clipboard for the patrons of the establishment to put their names and addresses. The singer would then put together a mailing list of the people who'd been at the club and send them updates as to what the singer was doing. Voltare thought it was a good idea, but a clipboard? So he got a blank bound book, covered it in old hinges and rubber skulls, painted the whole thing black and (this is the dedicated or weird part) used a thin wash to make all the pages look stained and old. During his set, he would hold up this thing and say; "This is the Book of the DEAD! If you write your name and address in this book... YOU WILL DIE!!!" Pause for effect and then say; "Eventually of course, it might take many years, but eventually you will die!"
"...and if you're too afraid of goin' astray, you won't go anywhere." - Granny Weatherwax
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R.S. Regular user CT one day I'll have 188 Posts
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On Mar 19, 2015, Slim King wrote: What exactly are the attributes of ghosts? What are the things they can and cannot do? Is everyone who dies automatically a "ghost"? Why are they free to roam the otherworld and to intervene in this world (I thought, according to popular notion, that everyone who dies automatically goes to one of two places)? And how do you know all this? Furthermore, do you think the ghost of Houdini is now kicking the crap out of the ghost that "scared him to death"? And wouldn't ghosts avoid spooking people for the very reason that they'll have to confront those people in the afterlife where the playing field is level? Surely the ghosts know this, no? So what really does a ghost have to gain for themselves by intervening in any way in this realm? And again, how do you KNOW all this? Ron
"It is error only, and not truth, that shrinks from inquiry." Thomas Paine
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18036 Posts
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When Houdini contacted Bess with the secret coded message, and Bess sent back her code in 1929, it became apparent to Harry that it was possible to get messages back and forth from beyond the grave .....so he apologized for attacking those who believed in ghosts. Houdini said he was sorry for lying about the mediums.
He had tried to frame the medium who's spirit contact made the death prediction (Bob admits it) Houdini played with fire, and he got burned....yet he learned an important lesson. So if you believe that Ghosts can actually Haunt someone, or simply effect them (Self fulfilling prophecies) by threatening to Haunt or kill them, either way seems to work. Houdini was dead within 2 years of attacking the medium others called Margery.
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