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Have to say I was concerned about the markings since my work is all close-up, but after a fair amount of use with both drunk and sober folk, the deck has never been questioned. Did corner short a Joker which is a great idea by the way.
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Check DMC marked deck. Large markings but so well designed
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Last weekend I had a blast opening up the Genii Convention with a 20 minute talk.

I also showed the Daredevil Deck and had to go extremely close to the camera. The roar in the room was immens once the marking could be spotted up close.
We sold out the second day. So much fun to use this bold marked deck.
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I would appreciate any comparison between the DMC marked deck and the Dardevil marked deck.
What are the advantages and disadvantages of each one of them?
I intend to order one of them, which one...?
Thanks for all advices!
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On Nov 11, 2015, mickym wrote:
I would appreciate any comparison between the DMC marked deck and the Dardevil marked deck.
What are the advantages and disadvantages of each one of them?
I intend to order one of them, which one...?
Thanks for all advices!


I think the Daredevil cards look more like a regular deck, not that the DMC markings aren't well hidden, just the back design isn't so common and the court cards scream "these cards are *different*". Not marked, but *different* (see: http://images.penguinmagic.com/images/pr......0956.jpg ). Why arouse unnecessary suspicion? DMC only comes as a marked deck so you'd have to use them all the time vs Daredevil which uses the Phoenix design with regular decks plentiful and less expensive.
Daredevil is best suited for when you have a clear view of the full back of the card, while DMC can work from more of a spread (albeit a wide one).

The "Caution" in the description for the DMC deck at Penguin is a bit of a joke as they won't pass a cursory check for a marked deck (nor can Daredevil for that matter):
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These cards have been created with professional magic and mentalism performers in mind, but they could be put to work to gain an illicit advantage at the card table. If you want to crush your friends at snap, that’s fine, have fun, but cheating at games where there is a gambled stake is unethical, immoral and illegal.
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Let me first say that I love and own many Phoenix decks, both gaffed and ungaffed, but to say they look more like a regular deck compared to the DMC depends on ones perspective. The DMC backs look like one of any nondescript ones you would see in a casino or poker room. The Phoenix look like ... well Phoenix. That is to say they are unique and resemble no other back one would be use to in the states. Not bicycle, aviator, bee, tally ho, etc.
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Unless they are familiar with the last incarnation of the Alladin deck. Similar feathery fern design.
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A friend showed me this recently. I will be getting this one!
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Well, let me make a quick review...because I am making one for my magazine (www.escamoteur.be) written in Dutch at this very moment, and want to share this with you guys. I use this deck ONLY in close-up. I have discovered it at Blackpool because I had to bring one for a friend. The moment they showed me the deck and how it works, I was blown away. This is a deck that permits you to read the back from a distance while talking and presenting your effect. What I often do in close-up is this... When you perform the classic invisible deck, people sometimes make the remark that they had to name out loud the card first. Just give them the Daredevil deck, let them select a card and turn it upside down without you seeing it. THEN open your invisible deck...it's a complete other level of magic. You don't have to believe me, just try it. It is a very powerful weapon and magicians tend to think it is too bold...believe me, it is Smile But nobody sees it. Sometimes they check the deck and I have to admit that my hands sweat a bit at this moment, but NEVER someone discovered ANYTHING.


The last sentence in this review is complete and utter nonsense. You could never have the backs inspected without giving the game away. However, you can give the shuffled deck to a spec FACE UP for them to select a card which they pass to you face down, and you'd know the value straight away.
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......But nobody sees it. Sometimes they check the deck and I have to admit that my hands sweat a bit at this moment, but NEVER someone discovered ANYTHING.


The last sentence in this review is complete and utter nonsense. You could never have the backs inspected without giving the game away. However, you can give the shuffled deck to a spec FACE UP for them to select a card which they pass to you face down, and you'd know the value straight away.


I respectfully disagree. "Never" is a strong word. While it's true that the deck won't hold up to a simple riffle check, and most marked decks won't withstand that level of scrutiny either, not every spectator knows how to do that or even suspects that the "something tricky" with the cards is that they're marked. This is especially true if you casually let them handle/shuffle the cards before you do anything. They will then convince themselves that they're "normal". You need to know/gauge your audience though, and handing over the deck should never be presented as a challenge.
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Milage will certainly vary. At a recent magic club meeting, one of the members was going to show another a simple card effect and asked if he could borrow a deck since I had my case out. I gave him the Daredevil deck (as a joke) and he just opened it up and went thru the effect with the other guy. They both handled the cards and neither noticed until "I" pointed it out. Even magicians with a certain focus (the effect at hand in this case) may not notice in casual use.

I am much more confident now, that they could be used by a confident and bold performer in close up situations.
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I got mine yesterday! Really nice. Already nailed a guy at work and have not even watched the DVD yet!
Does anyone use a different routine with the DD deck that is not on the DVD?
I am interested in different routines with the Daredevil deck.
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At a recent magic club meeting, one of the members was going to show another a simple card effect and asked if he could borrow a deck since I had my case out. I gave him the Daredevil deck (as a joke) and he just opened it up and went thru the effect with the other guy. They both handled the cards and neither noticed until "I" pointed it out. Even magicians with a certain focus (the effect at hand in this case) may not notice in casual use.


I got mine at a club auction last year and handed them to a friend (magician) who wanted to check them out. He was too busy examining "the usual places" for markings to find anything. The forest for the trees or something like that. Smile
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I am looking for a mark deck that I can spot the marking from a few steps away. Any recommendations?
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I am looking for a mark deck that I can spot the marking from a few steps away. Any recommendations?


I just tried this with my Daredevil Deck -- at least for me, at that distance the markings disappear back into the background.
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The markings disappear if you also tilt the deck or move the deck around. However, yu do have to watch angles and lighting in some situations. For example I was testing the boundaries of the hidden marks and was using it in front of a lay person (my roommate). At first he could not see the markings even though he held them up. However, his when his lamp hit the deck, he was able to tell the marks were there. But with audience management and situation control, it shouldn't be an issue.
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Does anyone know where I can obtain the explanation DVD for the Daredevil Deck? I bought the deck at the January 2020 SAM Convention in Las Vegas, but it was only the deck itself. (No written instructions or DVD.) Met Henry Evans and his card magic is stunning.
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Want to advise that Christian at Card-Shark bailed me out with a great solution. Mahalo from Hawaii!
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