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On May 9, 2018, fabziro wrote:
Hey guys I talked to Hugo about it and he said that
The issue with making the phone vibrate is that Apple don't allow both long and short vibrations on their devices, which limits the ability of the iPhone to code complex vibration patterns. If that changes we will implement it via an update to the app!


Many programs use the ping, short and long haptics. That is not true that you are restricted from my experience with third party programs. Take a look at developer forums and Watch forums.
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I just acquired the original Insight from the estate of a magician whose widow gave his collection of props to ur I.B.M. Ring for the members. It appears to be unused, the seal on the cards was unbroken, and there were still two rubber bands on the Velcro strap. The seal said it was preprogrammed, but it didn’t seem to be. After charging it and putting it in normal mode it wouldn’t read any cards. I then went into full deck mode until I found that the six of clubs was dead. After a few tries I finally presented the seven of clubs twice, and it now seems to properly read all but that six of clubs.

I don’t suppose it would still be possible to get a replacement for the dead card. I guess I can limp by by leaving it out of the deck. I did buy the app, and I’d like to find out how to join the Facebook group.
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I have open perceptions by Cesaral magic , the original and by far the best topped off with fantastic customer service . You get for what you pay for with this sort of product in my personal experience . Best wishes Tarik 🙂
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This has been discussed in depth. It is pretty widely recognized now that Hugo's product is excellent. Am surprised a card is not working, mine (and I have the original as well) has seemed to be bullet proof. I would reach out to Hugo on getting a replacement card.

Over the years have seen and handled all the versions of chipped cards. For a worker today Insight is the way to go. Cards can be wiped clean, not affected by moisture etc., handle well, nothing can be detected by sight or feel in the cards.
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That’s why they are rubbish because they are plastic . Mine are real bikes that Cesar replaces individual cards for me as when with great service , you are not using this deck for every effect so they last an age . I have shown my cards at the magic circle several times along side other magicians insight decks and everyone there agrees totally that open perceptions is in a different stratosphere than insight and that is a fact , best wishes Tarik 🙂
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Tarik, who am I to argue with an Inner Circle member here, but I agree with Mr. Talbot. Hugo is very responsive by email. The cards look and feel great. Audiences don't know the difference between red backs. The chips are solid. The programming is great. The plastic card is fantastic handling. I love the set.
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Maybe you like them a lot because you have nothing to compare them with . My cards blend in with all my other card effects as they are one and the same which is far better imho . Also the detector and the reader is so much more stealth like on open perceptions than on insight too as is the distance it can detect from . It’s like compering a Ferrari to a Ford they both will get you from A to B but I get the feeling you haven’t had both products side by side and tried them both out etc ? I have so maybe you could add some plastic Tenyo magic toys and I bet you could really rock the joint lol . Best wishes Tarik 🙂
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Play nicely Tarik...

I have had a chance to examine, compare and play with the options side by side thanks to a wealthy collector friend. Nothing against Cesar but stand by my comments.
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Ok John then tell me the linkage that connects insight to your phone and also tell me how open perceptions connects to its receiver because this is massive and something you would instantly know if you have played with both , kind regards Tarik 🙂
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On Jun 5, 2018, Tarik Flash wrote:

Ok John then tell me the linkage that connects insight to your phone and also tell me how open perceptions connects to its receiver because this is massive and something you would instantly know if you have played with both , kind regards Tarik 🙂


@ Tarik: Please, please don't cross examine J M Talbot. Trust his words please. He is a very respected member of the Café. Just an humble advise.

Best regards,

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I know he is Narendra he kindly sent me his miracle block penetration routine but he called me out for playing games which I am not doing . So if he thinks that I would appreciate it if rather than saying this type of statement on a public forum he then can’t back up why he is saying that to me when I know these two products inside out and back to front . I have not only compared them extensively myself I have also had them side by side and had them compared by some very very big hitters in magic and they are worlds apart in comparison in everyone’s opinion that I do know . Very best wishes Tarik 🙂
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Respectfully Tarik, I have not "called you out". I have no interest in debating with you or feel the need to "prove" myself. You are obviously very happy with your version and that is great, he makes wonderful items and is a very nice individual. I am simply echoing many positive reviews for Hugo's version and in my humble opinion (yes my opinion) the reviews are accurate. I feel fortunate to have been able to compare to other versions and for me Hugo's product suits me best. Our criteria for what tips the scale one way or the other may be different and that's OK.

Thank you for your kind words Ustaad and hope you enjoyed the Block routine Tarik.

John
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Thank you John , and yes your block routine is truly excellent . Very best wishes Tarik 🙂
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I purchased Insight Pro directly from Hugo's Website and trying to find out when it will ship. Does anyone have contact info for Hugo? Is he on Facebook? I have emailed tow different email addresses but gotten no reply from either one.
Thanks in advance for the help.
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That’s another big minus for Hugo he can be as elusive as the Scarlett pimpernel at times . Cesar answers me within 30 minutes max and his customer service is first class both before and after a purchase , regards Tarik 🙂
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Can someone tell me if the Insight Card Deck will fit into a regular card box and if Hugo makes it in Bicycle Backs too? I haven't heard back from Hugo from my emails about my order but hope thatches ships soon.
I looked for Hugo on Facebook but don't see him there and I have sent emails to two different email addresses I have for him.

Thanks again for the help and feedback.
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On Jun 11, 2018, JOurneyjoe wrote:

Can someone tell me if the Insight Card Deck will fit into a regular card box . . . .


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On Mar 24, 2015, Neb wrote:

Once the box has got old and tatty you can use a regular phoenix box but must remove a few cards in order for them to all fit.


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On Mar 25, 2015, shelley1508 wrote:

I thought I'd measure the deck so people could get an idea of the overall thickness. Total height is 16.8mm (no advertising cards), vs 16.5mm for the non-chipped deck I have here (including advertising cards). Our card box has a little bit more height than a regular box, allowing you to place extras like blanks, ESP cards etc in there as well.

You should be able to fit the chipped deck into a regular box though - though not if you include any extras l. It's a fairly snug fit, and removing a card (or two) as Neb suggests allows them to slide out into your hand when you tilt it.


Hope that helps! Smile

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Does anyone know if the "Readers" that are used for both the Cesaral Open Perceptions and Hugo Shelley's "Insight" are interchangeable?

That way you can use two different decks with the same reader.

Thanks for the feedback.
Joe
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No they are independent of one another and won’t work together regards Tarik 🙂
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The app reader for android was supposed to come out in mid 2017 according to a feed somewhere inside this thread. I can't find the app reader for android. Am I overlooking it?
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