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If you don't recognize the rampant racism of black against white in America, you must be smoking some really good stuff!

I have been dealing with it for fifty years!

Wow. I can't imagine why.

Were they able to deny you a bank loan and stop you from voting because of your color?
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If you don't recognize the rampant racism of black against white in America, you must be smoking some really good stuff!

I have been dealing with it for fifty years!

Wow. I can't imagine why.

Were they able to deny you a bank loan and stop you from voting because of your color?


Maybe you should have grown up the only white kid in an all black neighborhood in the sixties. When I was ten years old I had a black adult throw a pot of urine and feces on me just because of my color. I have story after story. Of course, you were safe in your lily-white liberal neighborhood wringing your hands over the plight of the blacks...you wouldn't know about real life.

Can you tell me of any credit-worthy blacks who have been denied bank loans for legitimate reasons?

Voting rights took a while, but there are no problems today, quite the opposite...think ACORN for one example.

I am really tired of white liberals with NO life experience in these matters pontificating on this!

I am sure you are also against black conservatives, who do recognize the problems and are stifled because of their beliefs.
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Can you tell me of any credit-worthy blacks who have been denied bank loans for legitimate reasons?


Please. I may be mixing you up with another poster, but weren't you in banking? Even if not, you should be well aware of the practice of redlining. It's hardly been a secret.

Here's an article picked quickly at random:
http://www.law360.com/articles/626347/la......ng-suits

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Voting rights took a while, but there are no problems today, quite the opposite

A short history of Black votes being suppressed:
http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/10/03/a......ression/

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I am sure you are also against black conservatives, who do recognize the problems and are stifled because of their beliefs.

No better use to the powers that be than to be a blowhard like Thomas Sowell and rake in the bucks. He is certainly not suffering for his beliefs.


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I am really tired of white liberals with NO life experience in these matters pontificating on this!

On the contrary, in my 61 years, I've had plenty of life experience with racists.
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Perhaps there is more to it than meets the eye. The black fellow, he may have committed another crime and mistakenly thought he was being arrested for that. When people have nothing to lose they lose it.
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Until the underlying cause is addressed, these distressing events are something Americans will have to get used to.



The problem is, the true underlying cause, racism by blacks, cannot be addressed.

Doing so gets one labeled as racist and bigoted.


I don't think this man was shot because he was white so much as because he was a cop.


The officers had reason to approach the vechile the shooter was in. The shooter opened fire at point blank range and shot the officer under the eye. Bullet is lodged in his head. He fired at the officers who gave pursuit and emptied his gun (357 magnum) and was shot to death by the officers who gave chase. I am sure because he emptied his gun there will be repercussions as to why they shot him and did not count the number of rounds he had fired while trying to kill them.

Wait and see this will turn into white police officers shooting a defenseless black man who shot a white officer in the face and tried to kill some other officers but ran out of bullets and got shot before he could reload. It is not fair. They should have let him reload. Or at least ask him if he had a bad childhood before defending themselves.

Bad white policemen. Good black criminal with a 357 magnum.
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They could have also asked of all the colours of life to be, why choose black?

and in a related story...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-......ead.html
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They could have also asked of all the colours of life to be, why choose black?

and in a related story...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-......ead.html


I believe they were off duty and working for the night club. Not that it makes a difference...but it might. Video is shut down.
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Please. I may be mixing you up with another poster, but weren't you in banking?



You have confused me with someone else. I have never been involved in banking...other than as a customer.
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Right. Sorry.
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Not a communist then.
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That just the way it is here, Tony. On various threads we've heard everything from "blacks are racists" to Obama is an anti-Semite.

It's called projection.


And we've seen the greatest division in America since this administration had been in office.
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Kabbalah said: "The problem is, the true underlying cause, racism by blacks, cannot be addressed."

Kabbalah, what are you smoking? The underlying problem is racism by blacks? Really? I thought you lived in America. Perhaps not.


If you don't recognize the rampant racism of black against white in America, you must be smoking some really good stuff!

I have been dealing with it for fifty years!


Funny how people who don't live in America can comment on how things are here.

I agree Kabbalah- racism is horrible and has become worse since the current administration has taken office. Really is sad.
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Kabbalah said: "The problem is, the true underlying cause, racism by blacks, cannot be addressed."

Kabbalah, what are you smoking? The underlying problem is racism by blacks? Really? I thought you lived in America. Perhaps not.


If you don't recognize the rampant racism of black against white in America, you must be smoking some really good stuff!

I have been dealing with it for fifty years!


Funny how people who don't live in America can comment on how things are here.

I agree Kabbalah- racism is horrible and has become worse since the current administration has taken office. Really is sad.



Yes it is a shame. This president had such an opportunity to bring the black and white communities closer and he blew it. He widened the gap.

I wonder if Hillary would widen the gap of misunderstanding between men and women. Smile I hope we don't find out. Smile
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When I was ten years old I had a black adult throw a pot of urine and feces on me just because of my color.


I may be mixing you up with another poster, but weren't you in banking?

It's called projection.

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Yes it is a shame. This president had such an opportunity to bring the black and white communities closer and he blew it. He widened the gap.



Of course the history of US racial division was his problem to solve, and dang it he didn't. Don't blame all those white presidents though; they didn't contribute in any way. No sir. Obama must shoulder the blame for racism in America.

The level of blind bigotry on this site just keeps growing. If there were no practical consequences to this empty-headed racism it'd be funny. But it's tragic.
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Yes it is a shame. This president had such an opportunity to bring the black and white communities closer and he blew it. He widened the gap.



Of course the history of US racial division was his problem to solve, and dang it he didn't. Don't blame all those white presidents though; they didn't contribute in any way. No sir. Obama must shoulder the blame for racism in America.

The level of blind bigotry on this site just keeps growing. If there were no practical consequences to this empty-headed racism it'd be funny. But it's tragic.


And if you were from America you would know that no other President and their adminisatration has ever said the things Obama and Holder have said that purposely made it worse.
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Yes it is a shame. This president had such an opportunity to bring the black and white communities closer and he blew it. He widened the gap.



Of course the history of US racial division was his problem to solve, and dang it he didn't. Don't blame all those white presidents though; they didn't contribute in any way. No sir. Obama must shoulder the blame for racism in America.

The level of blind bigotry on this site just keeps growing. If there were no practical consequences to this empty-headed racism it'd be funny. But it's tragic.


I believe you missed the point. No one said the racial division of people in the U.S. was his fault. However he had the opportunity to bring the two communities closer than any president because of his race and he completely ignored doing so. He actually stirred the pot and made it worse. He did nothing but widen the gap and probably set us back a good number of years. Again my opinion but not mine alone. Obama definitely did not help the situation. Racial tension is higher now than it has been in a long time and not just because of some shootings, but rather how they were handled by the White House. If you have to ask me what actions and what was said there is no use in having this discussion. There has been a racial divide before he was elected. However he just widened it when as the first black president he had a unique opportunity to if not close the gap but narrow it considerably. Unfortunately he chose to widen it.
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When I was ten years old I had a black adult throw a pot of urine and feces on me just because of my color.


I may be mixing you up with another poster, but weren't you in banking?

It's called projection.

Smile

I was thinking of NicholasD
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Yes it is a shame. This president had such an opportunity to bring the black and white communities closer and he blew it. He widened the gap.



Of course the history of US racial division was his problem to solve, and dang it he didn't. Don't blame all those white presidents though; they didn't contribute in any way. No sir. Obama must shoulder the blame for racism in America.

The level of blind bigotry on this site just keeps growing. If there were no practical consequences to this empty-headed racism it'd be funny. But it's tragic.


And if you were from America you would know that no other President and their adminisatration has ever said the things Obama and Holder have said that purposely made it worse.

And if you were from America you would know that the racism in this country impacts black people far more than white people.
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Yes it is a shame. This president had such an opportunity to bring the black and white communities closer and he blew it. He widened the gap.



Of course the history of US racial division was his problem to solve, and dang it he didn't. Don't blame all those white presidents though; they didn't contribute in any way. No sir. Obama must shoulder the blame for racism in America.

The level of blind bigotry on this site just keeps growing. If there were no practical consequences to this empty-headed racism it'd be funny. But it's tragic.


I believe you missed the point. No one said the racial division of people in the U.S. was his fault. However he had the opportunity to bring the two communities closer than any president because of his race and he completely ignored doing so. He actually stirred the pot and made it worse. He did nothing but widen the gap and probably set us back a good number of years. Again my opinion but not mine alone. Obama definitely did not help the situation. Racial tension is higher now than it has been in a long time and not just because of some shootings, but rather how they were handled by the White House. If you have to ask me what actions and what was said there is no use in having this discussion. There has been a racial divide before he was elected. However he just widened it when as the first black president he had a unique opportunity to if not close the gap but narrow it considerably. Unfortunately he chose to widen it.


So did every other president of the US. Why not hold Ronald Reagan to account for not bringing racial harmony? Or is it Obama's job because he's...?
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