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Http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/04/02/fun......ment-in/

12 year old shoots 6 year old brother, then kills himself.......
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May they rest in peace. I was listening to the news the other day and they said it was a fight over food. Pretty surreal some these news stories are. I mean so hard to believe crazy things like this happen.
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See, if the six year old had been allowed to have a gun, he could have defended himself against the 12 year old! Smile
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Http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/04/02/fun......ment-in/

12 year old shoots 6 year old brother, then kills himself.......

Missing from that article is that the 12 year old ALSO shot his older brother.

"Authorities say Kevin also shot and wounded his 16-year-old brother. The Tampa Bay Times reports that Trevor Pimentel attended his brothers' funeral Wednesday in a wheelchair, along with his mother and about 400 other mourners."

http://www.news4jax.com/news/funeral-hel......32149544
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I cannot imagine what the family is going through. The article I believe is probably some what misleading as it seems to imply he shot his brothers over food. As if to imply there was not enough food for them. I doubt that is the case. Then to turn the weapon on himself I just cannot fathom a 12 year old having those kind of demons. However I am not sure I even want to know what really happened. This is unbelievably tragic.


While this doeos bring up negligence of leaving firearms in the reach of children. I believe this goes much deeper than that. However I cannot fathom leaving firearms lying around where a 12 year old or 6 year old has access to them. Again I believe there is more to this than we know at this time.
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Horrible. Sadly, nothing can be done about gun violence in America.
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The article I believe is probably some what misleading as it seems to imply he shot his brothers over food. As if to imply there was not enough food for them.

There are two links to articles above, I see no mention of food in either. What were you reading?
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Horrible. Sadly, nothing can be done about gun violence in America.

Rubbish. It is easy to tackle; take the guns out of circulation. Civilized countries with gun control do not have these problems.
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The article I believe is probably some what misleading as it seems to imply he shot his brothers over food. As if to imply there was not enough food for them.
There are two links to articles above, I see no mention of food in either. What were you reading?



He was reading Tommy's post, second from the top, stating he had heard on the news that it was over food.
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On Apr 2, 2015, acesover wrote:

The article I believe is probably some what misleading as it seems to imply he shot his brothers over food. As if to imply there was not enough food for them.

There are two links to articles above, I see no mention of food in either. What were you reading?


My mistake. Yes it was tommy's post, not the articles.
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Very sad indeed and at Easter time
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"Boy, 12, stabbed baby brother to death"

If only Britain would take all knives out of circulation we could avoid these horrible tragedies.
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"Boy, 12, stabbed baby brother to death"

If only Britain would take all knives out of circulation we could avoid these horrible tragedies.

That is a sad story you cherry picked from way back in 2001:

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2001/feb/13/helencarter

Still, I wonder how many children in Britain have died from knives versus children in the U.S. who died from being shot since then. I would bet that the latter absolutely dwarfs the former.
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"Boy, 12, stabbed baby brother to death"

If only Britain would take all knives out of circulation we could avoid these horrible tragedies.


Ban all forks, everywhere.
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"Boy, 12, stabbed baby brother to death"

If only Britain would take all knives out of circulation we could avoid these horrible tragedies.


How many stabbings are there in Britain vs. how many shootings in America?
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In London there is a 1001 a month. The young fellas all seem to carry a tool these days even the girls.
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Horrible. Sadly, nothing can be done about gun violence in America.

Rubbish. It is easy to tackle; take the guns out of circulation. Civilized countries with gun control do not have these problems.


Please provide your source for this statement Tony. As seen here: http://www.infowars.com/statistics-prove......s-crime/

more guns equals less crimes.
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On Apr 2, 2015, Randwill wrote:
Horrible. Sadly, nothing can be done about gun violence in America.

Rubbish. It is easy to tackle; take the guns out of circulation. Civilized countries with gun control do not have these problems.


Please provide your source for this statement Tony. As seen here: http://www.infowars.com/statistics-prove......s-crime/

more guns equals less crimes.


LOL. Tony makes an international comparison, and you provide internal USA statistics. You're not even talking about the same thing.

But even looking at the infowars data, you see two things.

1. Gun ownership in the USA is increasing, and
2. Violent crime in the USA is decreasing.

They may or may not be causally related, but the article makes no argument to show that they are.

Let's replace fact 1 with another fact.

1. The number of Muslims in the USA is increasing and
2. Violent crime in the USA is decreasing.

There we have it folks, Islam is creating peace in the USA. You read it here first.

Or if you don't like that argument, let's try another.

1. Public acceptance of homosexuality is increasing and
2. Violent crime in the USA is decreasing.

And now we have the marvelous conclusion that the restriction of homosexuality causes violent crime, and we can now justify more liberal attitudes.

This argument from correlation is fun!

I don't know about where you live, but here in Alberta kids in upper-elementary school are taught about this fallacy in their math classes.
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