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Mudblood
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I have been practicing this for a long time (so this is kind of embarrasing)

Every time I try to bring the bottom card to the top of the deck, without fail, it ends up 2nd from top. I always seem to peel off the last two cards at the same time and I can't seem to stop that from happening.

The only way I can do it is if I run the last 5-7 cards of the deck off. I don't like doing this though because I feel it looks like false shuffling.

Any tips for controlling bottom card to top?
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If it ends up second, take the top card, shove it in the middle, take the bottom card, shove it in the middle, and voila.

P!
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Here's my advice: Run the last 5-7 cards of the deck off. It only looks like false shuffling to you. If it makes you feel better- practice your false shuffle combining runs and small blocks as you go through the deck. But it's not a big issue really. If you're talking and making eye contact with people they won't be paying that much attention. Or, to put it another way: if you don't care, neither will they.
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On Apr 4, 2015, Ado wrote:
If it ends up second, take the top card, shove it in the middle, take the bottom card, shove it in the middle, and voila.

P!


I vote for this, I think it's brilliant. I had a similar problem years ago and wish I would have thought of it.
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You can always undercut it to the top instead of overhand shuffle.
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I had this problem when I first started. People really don't notice it I promise. If you don't like it though then keep practicing till you get it. I still pull the last two off singly if that makes you feel better
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On Apr 4, 2015, Ado wrote:
If it ends up second, take the top card, shove it in the middle, take the bottom card, shove it in the middle, and voila.

P!

Fantastic, this is a good way of dealing with it.

Thank you.
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Hello, I am new, but I have a similar problem. Every time I control a card to the top, It looks like people knows that I controlled the card to the top or I did not move it. I have recorded doing it, but I cannot see where they realize this.
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It's probably in your being. That sounds kinda strange. People see your intent. If you intend to control a card they will see this. If you are just shuffling a deck and your whole demeanor shows it then that's what they will see. I have just recently started reading magic theory and I would recomend all beginers do the same. I waited way to long.
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Thank you. Then, you mean it is my intention and not the sleight itself. Do you have any advise about this?
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You have to believe your just shuffling the cards. You must believe it and it will show to your audience and they will believe it to. Try just shuffling the cards and see how you act when doing it. How you position your body and hands. How you talk and handle the cards. Then do the same thing when controling a card. Make sure you don't seem nervous and strangle the cards. I hope that helped.
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Thank you! I will practice it. I will try with the card in different situations because I tend to start showing the card at the top in the begining.
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Try controlling a card when you don't need to. That is, just shuffling a deck in front of others and control a random card. Since you don't need to control the card, it will help relax you when performing in front of others.

Same with forcing - good practice to force even when you don't need too. Helps your confidence and skill.

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I'll use your forcing suggestions that's great advice
Mudblood
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On Apr 9, 2015, 55Hudson wrote:
Try controlling a card when you don't need to. That is, just shuffling a deck in front of others and control a random card. Since you don't need to control the card, it will help relax you when performing in front of others.

Same with forcing - good practice to force even when you don't need too. Helps your confidence and skill.

Hudson

That's excellent advice and a really good idea.
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If your having trouble with a pinky break with a deck in standard grip
you might try spreading first , get one and do a double undercut.
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It's great to control it to the second place, because you can show it's not on the top, shove that card into the middle, and show it's not on the bottom either.
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