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Governments and so on today finance armies of trolls to post on the internet good opinions of themselves and the like. For what some of you guys do here for nothing, you could probably get a plug your party contract perhaps.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/ap......parisons



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Advertisers have been doing this for years, recruiting people to mention brands and products to others while at the bar or shopping to influence peoples minds and choices. nothing new.
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So whatever advertisers do, it's okay for the government to do?
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So whatever advertisers do, it's okay for the government to do?


Governments are just people like all of us trying the get the upper hand and control. (and re-elected)
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That one must be worth a dollar.
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So whatever advertisers do, it's okay for the government to do?


Governments are just people like all of us trying the get the upper hand and control. (and re-elected)

My question was not about the existence, but the propriety of such government actions.
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Operation Mocking Bird ... just a different angle...
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You see internet manipulation even with the "little guys". Go to Wikipedia and look up any local politician. They will have an entry that looks suspiciously like their campaign documents. You might even get to learn that they like quiet walks with their loyal dogs.

When you get to the news sites, it's often obvious which of the responses to the news story came from a political office.

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The Achilles heel of democracy is that it's a series of short-term popularity contests.


I think this is the danger of the idea of mandatory voting. Whoever owns the media will own the government.
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The Achilles heel of democracy is that it's a series of short-term popularity contests.


I think this is the danger of the idea of mandatory voting. Whoever owns the media will own the government.


It's already in place.
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
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The government also use their troll armies to go on-line and defame people. There are a lot of computer programs that can profile and attack certain people as well. Creepy but also quite amusing to think that one can be harassed by somebody that ain't real.
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So whatever advertisers do, it's okay for the government to do?


Governments are just people like all of us trying the get the upper hand and control. (and re-elected)

My question was not about the existence, but the propriety of such government actions.


To me it's all the same thing, we will never really see what goes on behind the scenes and for most part we may not want to as all our ideals would be shattered.
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Pretty submissive defeatist stance there, yes?

We are sturdy enough to stop crying after our illusions are shattered, and then do something collectively about the situation.
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Pretty submissive defeatist stance there, yes?

We are sturdy enough to stop crying after our illusions are shattered, and then do something collectively about the situation.


You rally the gang then. What time is the first meeting? Should I bring a plate?
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Politicians and "government" are not the same thing.

If a government agency is using tax dollars to promote their credibility it is ethically questionable.

Am I surprised? No. In about 1987 more than half the working population of the USA passed the "for government" classification and we have never looked back.

Job security comes from making it appear that you are doing something important rather than actually doing anything important,

and supervisors are paid according to the number of underlings doing nothing.
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The Overpass people sent representative to march in Washington DC... The trolls came out of the woodwork with massive fake stories saying only a few people showed up when actually thousands were there ... I think it's a crime.
The trolls had some pretty involved websites .. Someone was paying for it.
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Pretty submissive defeatist stance there, yes?

We are sturdy enough to stop crying after our illusions are shattered, and then do something collectively about the situation.


You rally the gang then. What time is the first meeting? Should I bring a plate?
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Here's one quick suggestion. In your part of the world, Mr. Assange's party needs support. Get in contact with them and ask them how you can help.

And some shrimp on the barbie would be lovely, thanks.
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Join no group. You will only set yourself up for manipulation if you do. Instead think for yourself and try to simply become aware of what is going on. Know the truth and truth will set you free. Act-accordingly.
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Join no group. You will only set yourself up for manipulation if you do. Instead think for yourself and try to simply become aware of what is going on. Know the truth and truth will set you free. Act-accordingly.


Says the slave to the Magic Café. Hah! We are all trapped in the whirlpools of the Brooks.
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats
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Join the resistance and wear a paper clip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GP15cY3f7UA

He who acts like the Nazi is the Nazi. Government trolls and the like are obviously acting like the Nazi and the resistance is against Nazi occupation. So like the Norwegians wore paper clips on their lapels as a symbol of resistance against Nazi occupation during World War II so do we.
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