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funsway Inner circle old things in new ways - new things in old ways 9988 Posts |
I envy you if you are so well recognized and get such requests for repeat performances.
I would think that where you go in those towns is not random at all, but that is a different matter. Even when I was performing a lot of effects in my "camp strolling" days at Medieval events I was well known tot he extent of people shouting, "Come to our camp next." But in three years and hundreds of performances I never had anyone distinguish between how I held an object or which hand I used or how many objects were in play. Perhaps the difference was that I wasn't trying to make a living doing it and didn't care if they remembered me or not. My objective was to create a memory of magic as it might have been done in Medieval times. . I would suggest that "louder reactions" does not always indicate "an experience of real magic." My goal has never been to "insure maximum reaction." I prefer they have a story to tell their grandchildren decades from now. You desire to have "you" remembered. I want magic to be remembered. Not a criticism of your approach. Just don't make assumptions about what other magicians do and why they do it. You are right in your assessment that most people calling themselves magicians don't do magic very well. I do not perform often these days because I do put importance on what I choose to perform. I never perform "on demand" or feel obligated to perform what is requested. I am not an entertainer and have no desire to be one. That does not suggest that what I choose to do is not very magical and profound. Complete silence is the best reaction I can get. Guess I just prefer to be invisible and allow magic to be the hero. If 3Fly inherently more magic than Coins Across? Does "at the fingertips" come across as more powerful magic than "in my a person's hand?" After 50,000+ performances I still do not know. Which is why I read your posts and learn.
"the more one pretends at magic, the more awe and wonder will be found in real life." Arnold Furst
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hackmonkey Inner circle England 1093 Posts |
Please guys! Can we keep this to a least of cool list of 3 Fly's/fingertip coins across!
It was going so well! |
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rannie Inner circle 4375 Posts |
I have not been in the Café for years.... here is one I came up with 8 years ago... Bast from the past...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3fPib9cJ-w or this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx74n98f7uc or... this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-2wHIOlV44 not exactly tree fly... but a coins across routine or..... this crazy bit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCIWik9EgDQ and... my fav... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1pikK2DfcU Hope this handling would give you some ideas. rannie
"If you can't teach an old dog new tricks, trick the old dog to learn."
-Rannie Raymundo- aka The Boss aka The Manila Enforcer www.rannieraymundo.com www.tapm.proboards80.net |
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J-Mac Inner circle Ridley Park, PA 5338 Posts |
Hey Rannie! Long time....
I heard you had taken a break from magic. Concentrating on your singing? Take care. Mabuhay! Jim |
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rannie Inner circle 4375 Posts |
Hi Jim... yeah been touring... doing concerts here and abroad. Will do a European tour then to Dubai. Aside from that, I became councilor in my city. Recently I went back to serious competetive Darts. All that while running my own bar. I did not know I could juggle pretty well.
Take care! rannie oh yeah.... Mabuhay!
"If you can't teach an old dog new tricks, trick the old dog to learn."
-Rannie Raymundo- aka The Boss aka The Manila Enforcer www.rannieraymundo.com www.tapm.proboards80.net |
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Moondragon1 Regular user Washington state 153 Posts |
I think Sanchez fly looks amazing, I am about to order it now. I'll let you know what it's like if you like!:-)
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hackmonkey Inner circle England 1093 Posts |
Nice stuff Rannie, I'm guessing you have studied a lot of variations of 3Fly?
MoonDragon1 Retro fly is a great short and clean version of 3Fly. Here is a unedited clip of me doing it I filmed last week. Its nice, but I don't think it'll be me 'final' 3Fly, I feel its a good jumping off point. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpRRPx5eP2A |
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J-Mac Inner circle Ridley Park, PA 5338 Posts |
Hackmonkey, That looks like Sanchez Fly rather than Retro Fly.
Jim |
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hackmonkey Inner circle England 1093 Posts |
Your right J-mac! I had been editing video late at night (not only magic). And reading magic Café posts as I was waiting for video process, I got a bit muddled and had a brain fart!
Yes it's Sanchez Fly which I bought after someone here recommended it! I made one or two small handeling changes and will probably make some more. I just found my TKO 2 while unpacking some stuff. |
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JustJoshinMagic Special user Montreal, QC 966 Posts |
This is my version of 3Fly which uses an expanded[ which I call "Fly"
Visually it's similar to Mike Eaton's "Pretty Fly" and David Gabbay's "Sanchez Fly" (Both of which have been mentioned earlier, but I HIGHLY recommend) I use it in every single walk around gig that I do. It's really easy to do and will actually appear in my column, "Show on the Go", in VANISH Magazine
Check out my magic here:
http://JustJoshinMagic.com and my official Instagram! http://instagram.com/JustJoshinMagic |
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Moondragon1 Regular user Washington state 153 Posts |
Wow Joshy, I love it! Nice use of the muscle pass!:-) I am drawing inspiration from you.
Cheers! :-) |
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Moondragon1 Regular user Washington state 153 Posts |
PS, I could use some pointers for the Muscle pass. I have a really hard time getting the coin to fly.:-(
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JustJoshinMagic Special user Montreal, QC 966 Posts |
Hey Moondragon it's actually just Josh lol
Glad you liked the routine! As for the MP, the best advice I have is to just practice, practice, practice. Jay Noblezada has a DVD on the MP that really helped me when I was learning it. Good luck!
Check out my magic here:
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Moondragon1 Regular user Washington state 153 Posts |
Hackmonkey, thanks for the video!:-) I love your personality and presentation. This video made me Smile ALOT.
Cheers! PS... Do you have more videos? I suppose I can check that link again and check your channel! Much love |
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Moondragon1 Regular user Washington state 153 Posts |
Thanks Josh, sorry about that... I will keep practicing!
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hackmonkey Inner circle England 1093 Posts |
Thanks Moondragon I had only practised this effect for week or two before filming it. I really just filmed it for this thread as you can see from my first post etc. I'm thinking of polishing my coins and practising some more and filming it again soon.
For more of my videos yes you can check youtube. My 'official channel' is http://www.youtube.com/TheJoePiper But you can search you youtube for some other stuff I worked with other people on such as the Cat's Meow cabaret and some indie projects. |
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vivekdesai New user 14 Posts |
Seconding Sanchez and Sankey's 3 fly routines.
Sankey's in particular is fairly easy to do. |
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jamo425 Loyal user 298 Posts |
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On Jul 22, 2015, funsway wrote: 3 fly does not require any set up besides having either 4 coins or 3 and a [ in your pocket. I have to disagree to an extent about shelled routines being cleaner, as I have seen cleaner 3fly routines.w/ soh cleaner than some shelled routines. depends on your handling. I've seen ryu ka's 3fly routine he has on youtube which I love, especially love his 3 coin transit. I actually have taken a lot of inspiration off of ryu ka's 3 fly routine in emperor. I still use his move, I'm sure you know the one I'm talking about. but I have changed up quite a bit to make it more or less my own. I have also found a way to make three coins travel at once. though I cannot take credit for the actual move (its from chef tsao's holy cow dvd, which id highly recommend to anyone simply for the sleights and.ideas), ive found a way to incorporate it into my 3fly.if he doesn't like his emperor routine I think he is just being modest imo. I thought it was one of the most original 3fly's I've seen. I could only hope ryu ka releases more material, id love to see more of his work, id be one of the first to buy whatever he put out. |
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Zee Regular user Leonia, NJ 196 Posts |
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On Sep 1, 2015, jamo425 wrote: What I meant by "cleaner" is... hmm.... before start performing 3fly, I don't have to hide anything. I always feel like a routine like 3 fly should convince my participant that there is no extra coin whatsoever. Anyways, it is just my personal problems. Everyone has their own definition of "clean" lol Btw, Ryu-ka found a magic company and he will make some DVDs with them. I will be in part of that too and there are some other amazing coin workers from Japan making some DVDs with that company too!! There will be a bunch of insane coin DVDs launching at the beginning of 2016 I am 999% sure you will love all the coin DVDs from that company if you love abusing fingers with coins. Zee |
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jamo425 Loyal user 298 Posts |
Yeah I hear you on convincing your spectator that you only have 3 coins, and of course a shell would be cleanest in that respect. I personally just do the utility spread while using 4 coins, the move shown by ponta in his 3 fly routine(not sure about the origins of the move). but I've found that move to be really useful in a lot of different situations. I haven't had anyone second guess so far, or as far as I know.
I've found that there are a lot of really talented underground japanese magicians in general out there. a lot of them have really creative stuff and a nice style to present it with. I'll definitely keep a look out for those dvds in 2016, really looking forward to it. I think coin magic is due for another "sick" dvd (pun intended). but keep us posted whenever things start coming out! |
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