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Gbhunter77 Veteran user 379 Posts |
Most of you guys know what its like to feel proud. How would you describe it?
What is it like to like yourself? How do you do it? I ask because I do not know these things, I do not feel pride never have. To say I hate myself would be like saying Hitler was not fond of Jewish people. So how does this change? I hate mirrors, I do not watch the clips I film. I do not even like skype because my image shows up on my screen. But at this point and at my age I do not think change is likely. However I am open to suggestions.
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ZachDavenport Inner circle Last time I posted I had one less than 1196 Posts |
Pride is not what you want. Loving yourself will not bring lasting joy. No human is worthy of having any pride. The pride of a human is false. Based only in what they think they have. Lasting joy comes from God. I am joyful because I know that Jesus is my Savior, and the Lord of my life. I like myself because I know that despite my flaws Jesus cares about me. I have been praying for you since I read the thread in the workers section. I hope you one day find joy in God.
Reality is a real killjoy.
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TonyB2009 Inner circle 5006 Posts |
Forget god - he is a human construction and if you are feeling down you won't create a good god.
I have been meditating since my teens. I find that brings me peace, and sets me up for a joyful life. There was a time I felt myself worthless. There was even a time I felt suicidal. Now I never feel that, and I believe that meditation has been the key. That, and exercise. I always feel a surge of well being after a brisk walk, a day in the hills, or an hour in the gym. Mindfulness meditation is very in right now, but I learned in the eighties, and it was Transcendental Meditation I learned. I sent my ex for training too, and she found it great. Maybe consider it, Paul?
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Gbhunter77 Veteran user 379 Posts |
Well its not pride pride I want. Its to be happy with my accomplishments and not to feel perpetually stupid and insignificant.
I would like to look in the mirror and not be filled with rage and hatred at what I see. I want to believe people when they give me a compliment and not when they put me down.
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ClintonMagus Inner circle Southwestern Southeast 3997 Posts |
You can feel pride in a lot of things beside yourself. I feel proud of the accomplishments of my family, of the folks at work who report to me, and of the kids I have coached more than I feel pride for myself. I have never been one to crave the limelight, rather I can get more enjoyment out of seeing what others can accomplish by working harder and achieving more than they ever thought they could.
My suggestion - if you are a fairly accomplished magician, find someone with whom you can share your abilities - a young person who wants to enter a competition or an older person who just needs a friend and would enjoy some magic on a regular basis. Locate a local Habitat for Humanity build and join with a lot of like-minded people to accomplish something truly great TOGETHER. Tutor a marginal student and help him pass a class he never thought he had a chance of passing. All of these things can bring you pride, but not just in yourself.
Things are more like they are today than they've ever been before...
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
I'd strongly suggest looking into finding a good psychiatrist. Many happiness/state of mind issue are purely chemical.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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TomBoleware Inner circle Hattiesburg, Ms 3163 Posts |
Hey Paul,
Yes by all means if you feel you need to talk to psychiatrists don’t hesitate to see one soon. My personal thoughts are: It’s never too late to change or improve your life. How we spend our last days here on earth is a choice. We can choose to see the bright side of things or we can choose to see the dark side. We can change our lives by simply changing our thoughts. Improving your self-image takes practice but it can be done. I highly recommend a book called Psycho-Cybernetics. It has changed many lives. I’ll be happy to buy you a copy if you will invest the time to read it. ClintonMagus said it well. The best way to help yourself is to find someone else to help. Don’t feel bad about the things you didn’t do, it’s too late to change the past, but you can start now ‘doing’ something you can be proud of. Paul, you can make us proud right now by making up your mind to help yourself. Tom
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CThomas Loyal user 272 Posts |
Look, I hope this isn't outside the bounds of the forum rules, but it is a direct and honest answer to your question, the only one I can give. When I look into the mirror I feel zero pride in myself for the organism I am or for anything I've ever done on my own merit. To the contrary, I know viscerally just what I am inside and it isn't a pretty picture. But when I look in the mirror I nonetheless feel enormous pride and fulfillment in knowing what Jesus Christ has done in me, and in knowing that I have a relationship with an omnipotent and loving God who infuses me with the goodness and pride-worthiness that I could never in a million years deserve on my own pathetic merit. When people talk about a changed life through following Christ it isn't a figure of speech. Lots of people will mock all this because they are at war with God and struggle mightily to suppress the knowledge of His truth that they have deep down. But on every level -- intellectual, emotional, practical, and of course spiritual, I would tell you that following Christ is the first step to what you're looking for.
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Intrepid Inner circle Silver Spring, MD 1178 Posts |
In addition to all of the above suggestions I'll toss one more out. Put your feeling about yourself aside and focus your thoughts and efforts into helping others. For example volunteer at a hospital, provide food to the homeless, etc.
Bob
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stoneunhinged Inner circle 3067 Posts |
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On May 15, 2015, LobowolfXXX wrote: +1 |
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irossall Special user Snohomish, Washington 529 Posts |
THIS IS NOT A JOKE OR SARCASM!
Get a copy of Desiderata. Ideally you should get a poster to put on the wall. Read it at least several times a day EVERY DAY. And really think about it's truth. "Go placidly amid the noise and the haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence. As far as possible, without surrender, be on good terms with all persons. Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even to the dull and the ignorant; they too have their story. Avoid loud and aggressive persons; they are vexatious to the spirit. If you compare yourself with others, you may become vain or bitter, for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself. Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans. Keep interested in your own career, however humble; it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time. Exercise caution in your business affairs, for the world is full of trickery. But let this not blind you to what virtue there is; many persons strive for high ideals, and everywhere life is full of heroism. Be yourself. Especially, do not feign affection. Neither be cynical about love; for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment, it is as perennial as the grass. Take kindly the counsel of the years, gracefully surrendering the things of youth. Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune. But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings. Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness. Beyond a wholesome discipline, be gentle with yourself. You are a child of the universe no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here. And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should. Therefore be at peace with God, whatever you conceive Him to be. And whatever your labors and aspirations, in the noisy confusion of life, keep peace in your soul. With all its sham, drudgery and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be cheerful. Strive to be happy." -Max Ehrmann -Iven
Give the gift of Life, Be an Organ Donor.
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Gbhunter77 Veteran user 379 Posts |
That's really cool. I do like that thank you.
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R.S. Regular user CT one day I'll have 184 Posts |
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On May 15, 2015, CThomas wrote: I think that suggesting that we are all worthless, pathetic and not deserving of pride on our own merits is a terrible and self-defeating outlook to have. This is a case of religion cutting you in order to sell you a Band-Aid. We should maintain our human dignity and realize that we can be good, decent beings deserving of pride without subjugating ourselves to the judgment of some being who may or may not be there in the first place. Pride and self-worth comes from within. It doesn't get "infused" by anyone or anything. Quote:
When people talk about a changed life through following Christ it isn't a figure of speech. Lots of people will mock all this because they are at war with God and struggle mightily to suppress the knowledge of His truth that they have deep down. But on every level -- intellectual, emotional, practical, and of course spiritual, I would tell you that following Christ is the first step to what you're looking for. No. They mock all this because there's absolutely no proof that "following Christ" is a prescription for a good, happy, healthy, fulfilling life. In fact, it may have the opposite effect by reinforcing how inferior, flawed, and inherently "sinful" you are. Guilt and fear are tools of oppression, not paths to freedom, happiness, and finding self-worth. I agree with Lobo on this one - a psychiatrist may not be a bad idea. Ron
"It is error only, and not truth, that shrinks from inquiry." Thomas Paine
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Chessmann Inner circle 4242 Posts |
Definitely get checked out, medically, if you haven't already.
Are there people you need to forgive? May sound odd, but one of the most profound things I have learned is the phrase, "Forgiveness is for you." Most of us, I think, are inclined to think that that forgiving someone is to help that other person/people...and it is good to know you have been forgiven...but it truly is for you, to release yourself from the pain and anger (or whatever) that resulted from their acts. It may be a bit difficult to grasp, at first, but forgiving other people is very much for you, and your emotional health.
My ex-cat was named "Muffin". "Vomit" would be a better name for her. AKA "The Evil Ball of Fur".
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Why was it obvious this would be a religious debate?
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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CThomas Loyal user 272 Posts |
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On May 17, 2015, Dannydoyle wrote: I figured it probably would, which is why I anticipated a response like that in my own initial message. R.S.'s points are utterly wrong from beginning to end, particularly with regard to the ground for belief, but correcting him in detail would probably take us too far afield. The key point for the original poster is a simple, pragmatic one. You owe it to yourself to investigate the claims of Christianity in a sincere and thoroughgoing way. There's nothing more fulfilling than a life lived following Christ, and it's important that you hear that when considering what to do about your situation. CT |
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R.S. Regular user CT one day I'll have 184 Posts |
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On May 17, 2015, CThomas wrote: I disagree with your contention that we lack "goodness and pride-worthiness" which we could never in a million years "deserve on our own pathetic merit". Folks, this is the perversion and obscenity of religion. Denigrate and belittle the masses and then offer them the "cure". Make them think of themselves as "pathetic" and "sinners" from the moment they emerge from the womb. Foster dependency on your particular prophet. Which brings up the question, why didn't you advise the OP to investigate the claims of Islam in a sincere and thoroughgoing way? Or the claims of Hinduism? Or Scientology? Why Christianity?? Doesn't he owe it to himself to make sure he has ALL the bases covered? What if Christianity is the wrong religion? Adhering to it would then be a fatal mistake in the long run. Personally, I think more highly of GBHunter than you do, apparently. I think he IS deserving, and valuable, and pride-worthy on his own merits. He can achieve through his own will. And he can take credit for his own accomplishments. There's nothing more fulfilling than that. He doesn't need to evaluate himself through the lens of your particular authority figure. He's already taken an important first step by reaching out and seeing that real people do care about his well-being. I am pulling for him and I wish him the best. Ron
"It is error only, and not truth, that shrinks from inquiry." Thomas Paine
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NYCTwister Loyal user 267 Posts |
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On May 18, 2015, R.S. wrote: It's the basis for pride, which IS necessary for happiness. GB - Think back to a time when you wanted something very badly, and you worked very hard to get it, and succeeded. Think about how you felt in that moment. That's pride. It's the greatest feeling you can experience; it's the expression of your love for yourself and of your worthiness to live this life. Without it everything seems flat, and gray, and pointless. The clock ticks life away GB. Stop thinking about others, about what they think and do, and go DO something. I don't care how depressed you are, there must still be something you WANT to accomplish. Go do that thing.
If you need fear to enforce your beliefs, then your beliefs are worthless.
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Gbhunter77 Veteran user 379 Posts |
Lets not let this devolve into a holy war. I'm a Christian I how ever do not belive in this misery doctorine. There is no way that you can belive in anyone if you do not belive yourself. If you are not confident then no matter who is behind you will fail. Read the story of Moses if you disagree. Anyway it this conference I seek, pride is not "evil" its excesss is "evil" (like many things) , I also think we are confusing pride and confidence. In my life I have done many things because people said I could not. I am a licensed
pilot,SCUBA diver among other things but I do not feel good about these. I just feel like no matter what I do I have to keep proving things. I cant enjoy what I did, its like "oh that's done whats next". Many Dr are just pill pushers, they put you in a state of drooling stupidity and call it "happines".
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Gbhunter77 Veteran user 379 Posts |
This is going south fast. Please don't argue just let it go. Have enough respect for me to know I do not need convincing of any view. I just want advice, then I will decide what I want and what I do not. It would be terrible if you guys got in trouble while trying to help. So please please please don't let this get out of hand.
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