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I'm watching "Celebrity Jeopardy" and one of the contestants is Penn Gillette. (He won, BTW) He doesn't look good. It's not just that he's lost a lot of weight (apparently about 105 lbs.) but his voice doesn't sound good either.

Anybody know anything about this? I honestly hope he's going to be OK.
"There's no time to lose," I heard her say.
"Catch your dreams before they slip away."
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Ain't life unkind?"
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He is FINE. Knock that crap off. The dude loses weight to be healthier and you want to speculate he is less healthy?
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Quite a few articles that talk a out health issues Penn was facing, so he worked hard to eat better, exercise and lose weight. Good on him. Can't comment on his. Voice. Could be he yella a lot during shows...I'd guess he had a frog in in throat (or is that one of his routines?)
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He lost 105 lbs in about 100 days by going Vegan and by limiting his calorie intake to about 1000 calories a day. Probably not the healthiest way to lose weight but hopefully it won't have caused any problems for him. Good for him to lose the weight and start exercising. I hope he's healthier and happier!
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On May 15, 2015, Dannydoyle wrote:
He is FINE. Knock that crap off. The dude loses weight to be healthier and you want to speculate he is less healthy?

Why not? Losing weight doesn't automatically mean one is healthier. Why so angry?
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It's great that Mr. Gillette Lost 105 lbs.

I met Penn at the 2003 3rd Annual Close-Up Magic Convention in Las Vegas. He was very slim at that time. My hat is off to him.

I would think that he was under a Doctor's care while dieting.

I Lost 70 lbs this last 8 months (230 down to 160) I was not smart and don't recommend the way I did it.

My boss called me in and questioned my weight loss. He asked me if I had any "Issues". I just said no, I'm on a diet.
I still have a few fellow employees who will not sit next to me in the breakroom because they are convinced I have Aids. One "Friend" no longer has anything to do with me.

I believe these kinds of negative responses are more common than most people think.
Funny how some people will criticize you for being overweight and the very same people will also criticize you when you lose the weight.

In some people's minds, you just can't win.

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He won big, and his betting strategy was sound.......and he's the dumb one.
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When you lose a large amount of weight like Penn did (fair play to him) your skin becomes a bit saggy, and you can age rapidly. The good news is that normally after a couple of months your skin shrinks down to your new weight. Give it six months and Penn will look amazing. My brother went through a similar weight loss and looked ancient last summer. When I saw him at Christmas he looked young and vibrant.

As for his voice, he has far less weight behind it, so it is natural it will lose some of its depth and mellowness. This might return, or he might retrain it. I think he looks great.
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Having lost 192 lbs (87.1kg) in 14 months I can give you some insight to what's happening to Penn.
My voice particularly at the end of the journey got very weak and thin...once I moved on to the maintenance part my voice did recover.
It shouldn't be a surprise that this occurs as weight loss is essentially a process of stressing the body into surrendering the fat reserves.

As for the loose skin...if you are young and/or have good genes your skin may recover and become tighter.
However if you are older the news isn't so good. Particulary if like me you were twice the size you should have been.
No way does the skin recover.
After I had lost all the weight I was left with a soccer ball size lump of loose skin around the stomach area.
Fortunately I had a belly hernia that needed repair and the surgeon agreed to remove the loose skin at the same time.
My stomach is now flat (abet with a massive scar and a missing belly button) but the rest of the body has still plenty of areas of loose skin. It's just the price you pay for being foolish in the first place and not looking after yourself when you were young.
I believe that is what will be happening to Penn also.
In the end however good healthy and fitness is worth the loose skin.
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Good for you for losing the weight and keeping it off Kim!
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On May 15, 2015, Dannydoyle wrote:
He is FINE. Knock that crap off. The dude loses weight to be healthier and you want to speculate he is less healthy?


I'm hoping he's fine. He looks less like he "lost weight" and more like he's emaciated!
The voice might be a result of the rapid weight loss. Or it might just be that he yells too much on stage and it's starting to show.

All I remember is Blackstone making the Miss America contestants appear and thinking; "What the Hell's wrong with Harry?"

As far as the "official story," I'm not one for conspiracy theories, but I remember when they wanted Liberace to be a villain on "Miami Vice" and were told he was having an adverse reaction to a pineapple diet he'd undergone.
"There's no time to lose," I heard her say.
"Catch your dreams before they slip away."
"Dying all the time, lose your dreams and you could lose your mind.
Ain't life unkind?"
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Having lost 192 lbs (87.1kg) in 14 months I can give you some insight to what's happening to Penn.
My voice particularly at the end of the journey got very weak and thin...once I moved on to the maintenance part my voice did recover.
It shouldn't be a surprise that this occurs as weight loss is essentially a process of stressing the body into surrendering the fat reserves.

As for the loose skin...if you are young and/or have good genes your skin may recover and become tighter.
However if you are older the news isn't so good. Particulary if like me you were twice the size you should have been.
No way does the skin recover.
After I had lost all the weight I was left with a soccer ball size lump of loose skin around the stomach area.
Fortunately I had a belly hernia that needed repair and the surgeon agreed to remove the loose skin at the same time.
My stomach is now flat (abet with a massive scar and a missing belly button) but the rest of the body has still plenty of areas of loose skin. It's just the price you pay for being foolish in the first place and not looking after yourself when you were young.
I believe that is what will be happening to Penn also.
In the end however good healthy and fitness is worth the loose skin.


I hope you're right and good for you!
"There's no time to lose," I heard her say.
"Catch your dreams before they slip away."
"Dying all the time, lose your dreams and you could lose your mind.
Ain't life unkind?"
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On May 15, 2015, Dannydoyle wrote:
He is FINE. Knock that crap off. The dude loses weight to be healthier and you want to speculate he is less healthy?


I'm hoping he's fine. He looks less like he "lost weight" and more like he's emaciated!
The voice might be a result of the rapid weight loss. Or it might just be that he yells too much on stage and it's starting to show.

All I remember is Blackstone making the Miss America contestants appear and thinking; "What the Hell's wrong with Harry?"

As far as the "official story," I'm not one for conspiracy theories, but I remember when they wanted Liberace to be a villain on "Miami Vice" and were told he was having an adverse reaction to a pineapple diet he'd undergone.


How does wild speculation help exactly?
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Danny is right: this is none of our business.

We're gossiping,

But: admitting that this is just gossip, and knowing that Penn himself loathes intellectual cowardice, and guessing that he has never spent a single moment of his life reading the Magic Café, I will add this:

I was surprised when my son and I went to the show at the first of April. What bothered me was not his thinness, but his suit. His suit draped around him like he was losing weight faster than his tailor could keep up with him. Bad sartorial taste? Or unexpected weight loss? Inquiring minds want to know.

My own personal guess is: bad sartorial taste.

A side note: I did the photo thing with Penn after the show (unless you want to blow an hour of your time, you gotta pick Penn or Teller; I picked Penn). I posted the photo on Facebook, and the first comments were about Penn's emaciated look. I hope he is well. God bless Penn.
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That "emaciated look" will pass once Penn moves on to the maintenance side of weight management. In maintenance the body orders itself around a bit. For me I got my butt back (it got very bony there for a while), the face became fuller looking and my ankles, hands and arms got thinner.

I think Penn's greatest challenge will be the change in his stage presence. This works on two levels. How people react to the "new" you and how you move and act on stage. That was one of the biggest surprises for me.

In the old days when I fronted a birthday party I literally could see the host's face drop when they caught sight of the fat magician. They put me in a box before I had even began and I had to work extra hard to prove that indeed that I was very good and worth the money. Nowadays that pressure is gone. I'm judged on performance only and as a result I'm far more relaxed on stage.
There is judgement and prejudice against fat people that is unfair but it does happen. The proof in my life is that I was rarely hired by adults for adult parties (I'm a children's party specialist) but now that I've lost the weight I've done more shows for adults in the past 3 years than the entire twenty years before that yet my marketing hasn't changed at all.

I also discovered that with the change of body, there came a change of performance.
No longer did I have that "cuddly look" that kids could relate to (a lot of cartoon characters are "well rounded") so my stage character's humour was perceived as sharper (meaner?) than before. So now I've had to change the lines in my show to make me more softer.
Also with the weight loss I've gained more authority on stage.
It may be because I'm more relaxed or confident; or it could be that a fit person is seen as more authorive than a fat person - I don't know...all I do know is that I'm more commanding on stage. My words carry more weight (ironic or what?).
Some routines that I use to perform had to be radically changed as they no longer worked. One routine specially had a real reworking.
It's underlining premise was the same as the hippos in the tutu's of Disney's Fantasia.
The skinny hippo look meant that the audience didn't get the parody - they thought I was playing it straight.
Result...no laughs in a routine that was full of huge belly laughs.
I had to find a totally new way into the routine.

It took some work to find the new stage persona that worked. I had a chance once to speak to a well know magician who had lost a good deal of weight about the subject. I found that he too had to change his routines and stage persona in response to the change.
I think that we will see a "new" version of Penn.
The same...but not quite the same. It will be interesting viewing.
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Penn looked good, if you ask me. He sounded strong. He seemed to have a bunch of nervous energy. He treated the fans professionally and courteously and healthily.

Just for the record, here's the picture (taken on the 5th or 6th of April this year):


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I'm the guy on the left. The guy on the right is my son, Billy. The guy in the middle is Penn Jillette. I admire him very much. He's full of sh*t. But so am I.
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Great picture.

Kim, thanks for the great insights into the effects of weight loss. As a magician who could stand to drop 100lbs I find that fascinating. I did once drop around 100lbs in four months, and I was doing a show and made a crack about being fat. No laugh and a kid piped up: But you're not fat. So I too had to rethink.

Thankfully I have eaten my way out of that problem, but now that I am shedding pounds again I will have to rethink once more.
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Weight was not put on fast, it should not be taken off fast.
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On May 19, 2015, stoneunhinged wrote:
Penn looked good, if you ask me. He sounded strong. He seemed to have a bunch of nervous energy. He treated the fans professionally and courteously and healthily.

Just for the record, here's the picture (taken on the 5th or 6th of April this year):

Image


I'm the guy on the left. The guy on the right is my son, Billy. The guy in the middle is Penn Jillette. I admire him very much. He's full of sh*t. But so am I.

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