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truman Special user 635 Posts 
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On Jun 3, 2015, phillsmiff wrote: If you have an outline of specific theoretical material that you'd like to discuss, I thought Luke Jermay's lecture-inside-a-lecture approach was effective. He was organized with slides and made all the points he wanted to make without having to joust with the moderator (who can sometimes be disruptive and overpowering). Luke started with effects, did a focused section on theory, did more effects, and then sat down with Dan. I thought it worked out very well. Once you get to the chat phase, you're not in control anymore. |
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phillsmiff Inner circle UK 1798 Posts
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Thanks for the idea Truman. A lot of the theory is illustrated by particular effects - I'm planning on including Thumbscrews not because it is THE BEST but because it is designed in such a way as to be as screwup-proof as possible and that's what I want to cover. But the specific theory stuff I will maybe do as you suggest.
Phill
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Mr. Mindbender Inner circle 1566 Posts
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I love Quinta and bought the book, so the selfish part of me doesn't want Quinta and its versatility shared with everyone who just watchs your lecture. But, again, that's just me being selfish. All that said, I think that the strength of Quinta is not the methodology, but how it can be used in a variety of ways. It's like when Vincent Hedan showed in his lecture how his effect Pi was a way to use a memorized stack without using a deck of cards. Quinta can be used with objects like ESP cards, or envelopes, but can also apply to a chair test, for example. So I would love for you to not necessarily show multiple effects with Quinta, but at least talk about some of the ways you and others have explored its application.
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dmoses Inner circle 2261 Posts
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I want you to do a Q&A if only to illustrate your thoughts on premise.
"You're a comedian. You wanna do mankind a service, tell funnier jokes."
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magicgerry06 Regular user FRANCE 132 Posts
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I love Equifinque! Nice quick impromptu plot. Don't teach it (-:
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phillsmiff Inner circle UK 1798 Posts
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Oh, er, Gerard, you might want to look away RIGHT at the beginning of the lecture. :-/
Phill
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Alwow Special user Los Angeles 544 Posts
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Phil,
I don't have any experience with your performing style or the types of effects you perform but in the interest of both potentially helping you with creating your lecture and others whose interests are in line with mine; things I'm interested in currently are: 1) How mind reading should look and possibly feel for both you and the participant. 2) Storytelling and intertwining a story into your effects/act. 3) Scripting and the ability to make your scripted act what you actually perform. I believe Jermay touched on this either in his lecture or dvd set I don't recall. Or none of the above... and just shot from the hip! 
"Everything I show you is the truth... And the truth is the loveliest of lies"
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Stunninger Inner circle 2828 Posts
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Another vote for your approach to Q&A. Thanks for asking!
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phillsmiff Inner circle UK 1798 Posts
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Hi guys, following a bit of research and work I think the way I'm going to split this up is to do a short close-up set (performance), followed by the explanations, and a short cabaret set followed by the explanations, interspersed with some other stuff? It makes sense to break it that way because close-up and stand-up are kind of different beasts.
Phill
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Investigative Mentalist Special user Seattle, WA 565 Posts
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On Jun 7, 2015, phillsmiff wrote: Sounds good! I'm already signed up on the "All Access Pass" |
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WooverM Loyal user 285 Posts
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On Jun 7, 2015, phillsmiff wrote: Great! Thank you for listenning to our suggestions 
Woover
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Luccky Regular user 107 Posts
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Good news ! Thanks Phill. Close-up mentalism is the thing I want to hear about.
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phillsmiff Inner circle UK 1798 Posts
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At the moment the structure is almost like 2 mini lectures, one close up and one stand up - the close up set is all fairly straightforward commercial stuff I've used for real people with minimal props etc. It's been fun looking again at how everything fits together, and it gives me the chance to build in some structure (more so with the stand up stuff) that would be hard to touch on if it was effect / explanation / effect / explanation like a normal lecture.
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phillsmiff Inner circle UK 1798 Posts
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Hi guys, I don't really have anything significant to add beyond what I've already mentioned regarding the upcoming lecture beyond being just super excited to share all this stuff with you. The text on the Penguin site suggests I'm going to be doing Knowledge 3, but I've swapped that out for Left Brain Write Brain because I've been playing with the revised version and I love it, and I'm probably going to cover Knowledge Quin in the bit where I bang on about Quinta stuff for a whole day, so it's a fair exchange.
If anyone has any questions that you want me to answer during the lecture, please ask them here: I'll concoct a plausible sounding answer and say it as convincingly as possible during the show. 
Thanks! Phill
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dan the man Loyal user 216 Posts
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On Jun 17, 2015, phillsmiff wrote: Yesss! Thank you, sounds great! |
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Orlan Loyal user WA 223 Posts
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Hi Phill!
I must admit I'm not familiar with your work, but I'm definitely looking forward to your lecture. Your plan sounds great, I also prefer the perform multiple effects first then explain later approach against the one effect one explanation approach. I'm sure by now you have your plan, but I'll throw in another idea. Many people will probably disagree with me, but I actually like it when the performer explains everything, except for one thing. If you have one effect that's hard hitting and you are not sure if you want to share it- it's okay to perform it and not explain it. It will keep your audience interested in your work (that's my opinion anyway). And hey, you can say you'll explain it in your second Penguin lecture!
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sjrw Special user 571 Posts
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I totally agree with Orlan.
I love it when lecturers perform something which they don't explain. Leaves you wanting more. And ends the lecture on a high note. |
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SolidSnake Special user 534 Posts
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Cods wallop
There is no holy grail!
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phillsmiff Inner circle UK 1798 Posts
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Hi Orlan, I've got plenty of opportunities through the rest of the year to show people stuff and not explain it - I get what you are saying that it is tantalising, but it's all on the table on Sunday, metaphorically but also kind of literally. I've just flown like 5000miles to teach this stuff I'm not going to blue balls anyone with some obscure unexplained wizardry.
Phill
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Orlan Loyal user WA 223 Posts
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I'm all for that too.
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