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HighVolt29
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I've done many tricks where the cards simply can't be examined. It is these tricks where the spectators always ask to examine the cards which are gaffed. (Double backed, etc.) When I say no, they say that I am using a trick deck and assume all my tricks are like this.

What do you do when spectators ask this question?
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Do a simple deck switch or learn different ways to do the tricks with a regular deck of cards that give the same effect. Smile Either way you'll be getting better!
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I just admit that they're right. "Of course it's a trick deck! That's why they're called TRICKS!" Then give them a wink and a smile and move on. Usually everyone has a good laugh about this and it will give Mr. Nosey something to contemplate.
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First do a trick with a normal deck of cards: a very powerful one that you know will blow them away. Then show them your deck of cards. You can then proceed to do a trick with your gimmicked deck and no one will request to see your deck of cards.
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Tell them to wash their hands first. Politely explain that most people have oils on their hands that actually eat away at the surface of the cards. While they are washing their hands, switch decks.
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A better question might be:

What am I doing that prompts some audience members to express a desire to handle the cards?
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Thanks everyone for the advice.

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I'd go with a deck switch. Maybe buy some time.

"Yes, you could examine it, but do you think it would do any good?" This was a tip given by Doc Eason at his lecture that I saw in Pittsburgh a few months back. I believe he was basing this around some of Kenton Knepper's Wonder Words principles, but don't quote me on that.
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If you are using just one card you can always palm off that card and give them the rest of the deck, but chances are that if you're using a double backer you probably can't do an invisible, smooth palm. I would recommend looking through Encyclopedia of CardMmagic and finding three alternatives to a gimmicked card for each trick you do....that way you'll be covered even if they catch onto your move. I was once doing an ambitious card routine and someone had heard of a double lift. I did a KM move or a bottom placement and they were distracted...then I did a double and fooled them - how fun was that!
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This has been a common problem for me. Well, I came up with this:

My packet wallet (credit card wallet, leather) is where I keep my two "stand by" effects, in case someone asks me...

On the back of the wallet I have a piece of double stick tape, covered by a piece of wax paper. When the trick is done, and the "DB'er" is on the bottom (can't palm it off, the heat is on!), I place the packet on the wallet, so the DB'er sticks to the wallet, and I dump the cards on the table (towards me), and pocket the wallet!

All that's left to do is slide the DB off in my pocket, and when I bring out the wallet to put the cards back, I have Color Monte standing by--no gaffs--no more requests to see the cards. I usually end with a no-gaff where I'm clean at the end, anyway.

Just a thought...

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"Tell them to wash their hands first. Politely explain that most people have oils on their hands that actually eat away at the surface of the cards. While they are washing their hands, switch decks."

Bill Palmer said this before and I usually would say something to that extent if the situation came up. Usually, it is better to avoid that situation altogether, but sometimes there is a person who always claims that the deck is a trick deck. Depending on the situation, I might just ignore him. Here is a tip: if you address the person that said it, all the focus will be there. Simply ignore him and move into the next trick and the audience won't think twice (this also goes for someone saying they know how the trick works). If the person is obnoxious and constantly tries to ruin the tricks, I try to embarass them a little bit. I might say in front of a large group, "Ladies and Gentlemen, Mr. (whatever his name is) will now proceed to make a rabbit appear out of his hat." Or something silly that he obviously cannot do. Play around with that line, I usually make something up on the spot if that situation comes up.
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Tell them "Absolutely" then pocket the cards and continue on with your performance. The rest of the audience will remember your positive response and the inquirer will assume you just misunderstood. (keep smiling)
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Great response GKFREED!
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Thank GKFREED for the great response. I really like that idea.
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I never do an effect with a gaffed deck or packet without first doing card magic with a regular deck of cards. Once you've established that you can do miracles with examined cards, people will assume all your cards are normal and in my experience they don't ask to see the cards again even if you bring out another deck or packet.
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Just say no.

Don't give in to peer pressure from your audience.

If you make a big deal about it they will pick on you even more.
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There is so much material out there without using gaffs you should switch to that way of working for awhile... if they are your regular audience that you work often for, after a while they will not ask anymore.

So, without gaffs, just hand them the cards to shuffle or whatever.

If you work behind a bar, do like Frank Shields used to do: say, "OK, but just a second, the cards are dirty, let me clean them." He would then dump them into the soapy sink water and hand them a soaking wet deck.

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Say:

"Sure, some people even say: 'If you were a real magician, you would let me shuffle the deck! To which I respond: "Go find yourself another magician'!"

This gets a good laugh, because it's just not expected and everybody forgets about examining the deck.
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I personally don't use any trick cards except for a invisible deck. I have not once ran into someone wanting to examine my invisible deck. What tricks do you use trick cards for? If you just have one double backer you need to ditch jus side steel it ot the bottom and gambler palm it while handing them the deck to examine. that's what I do for Daniel GArcia's Satisfaction guarunteed because it only uses one double backer. Are you doing a gimicked packet trick? I usually stay away from those in close up because most people do want to examine them. It also depends on your age and who your performing for. If you a younger magican like me and performing for other younger people they will be much more skeptical and want to examine everything. They will be more respectful to older magicians. Not because they like you less but because they feel more comfortable around you and want to catch you. that's why I don't use gimmicked decks.
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Quote:
On 2004-02-16 03:25, jondabach wrote:
If you are using just one card you can always palm off that card and give them the rest of the deck, but chances are that if you're using a double backer you probably can't do an invisible, smooth palm.


You've heard of Vernon, and the Trick that Fooled Houdini, right?...
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