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JonathanB
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I've got Mark Wilson's and Joshua Jay's Complete Courses, I've watched the DVD from the latter and I've read lots and lots both in the past and recently. I've have an insatiable desire to read and understand, gazing in wonder at the skill, ingenuity and sometimes simplicity of various effects and presentations. As per my intro posting I really like the technical props like the Pom Pom Prayer Stick and the great classic style illusions with their cabinets etc.

My problem really boils down to where should I begin if I want to actually learn and become competent in showing the odd trick to friends and relatives? I don't get bored as such, just a bit overwhelmed at wanting to know everything and I'm probably a bit impatient with myself! I already mentioned on the other post that I think I need to get some other cards (poker rather than bridge sized), so perhaps starting with trying to improve card handling might be a good idea? Then again I also have a thumb tip and that sort of stuff is quite interesting and exciting. Basically I think I'm wanting too much too quickly - any tips on where to actually get stuck in? I'm guessing I'm probably not the first (and won't be the last) newbie with this sort of problem! Smile
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If you're interested in impromptu, anywhere, anytime, strong card effects/routine - I've written a few books JST FOR YOU!!
[email]harrylorayne@earthlink.net[/email]

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JonathanB
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I nearly added "beyond the books" to the thread title, as I'm not entirely sure that buying more books is the answer to my problem as such... It might make my problem worse!


PS. I'm not sure I meant bridge sized cards - I just have "standard" which I think are a bit big for my hands.
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You can't go wrong with Harry Lorayne's books.

Ray
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And my hands are most likely smaller than yours.
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Jonathan: Welcome to the Café. Is there a magic club in your area? If so, get involved. You will meet card guys, coin guys, illusionists, and even non-performers that collect props. You will interface with these people on a regular basis, and eventually take a keen interest in something. Then you can start your journey.

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I think that you just have to take things one move at a time. I've never looked at the courses you've described, but I would imagine that they begin with the more basic fundamentals and then progress onto routines and such. Take a single, important move, say a double lift or even a riffle shuffle. Work on it, practice it over and over. Then move to the next one. As you do this, you will get closer to being ready to move onto complete tricks (which will challenge you in their own way) as well as see your general comfort with your cards increase.
There's a time for tunnel vision and a time to see the bigger picture - when it comes to "what now?" you just need one thing at any given time to do with your deck. (Obviously there can be more, but you get my point.)
Remember Quacky.
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Jonathan,
You have been exposed to quite a bit of magic already. I suggest you pick a few effects that you think are cool. Then, of those, pick just one. Learn it, practice it, every day for a couple weeks. Then show it to someone.
KJ
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It says you are in Hampshire, and there are clubs around that county - so joining one could be worthwhile. Come along to Eastbourne in September to the British Ring covention and get SERIOUSLY overwhelmed with good magic. And I'm with 1KJ - take one trick, learn that trick, play with that trick, show it to someone, then learn it again having learnt the lessons from performance - what works in rehearsal so often seems less succesful when doing it for real!!
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JonathanB

Here is a link that I go into detail in answering your question, might be worth reading.

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......forum=41

Magically

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JonathanB
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Thanks folks. I've got a fresh deck of cards and also an ID so can play with those - I popped into Merchant of Magic the other day and had a chat which was really helpful too. I think I'll keep persevering with the cards and mix with trying some simple coin palms - I've downloaded part of the Tarbell All The Tricks in the Book video series to help with the latter. Slow baby steps I guess!

Aus, your previous post is great!
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Whatever you start with, be sure to invest about 50% of your time studying performance. Look at people like Tommy Wonder or Albert Goshman. Look at how/when they do their moves, how they are engaging the audience at the same time, and so on.

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