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Spartan21 New user 4 Posts |
I tried this at a school leaving dinner for 11 year olds on the basis that if I can get it past kids I can get it past adults. The reaction was very underwhelming, I went back to the WOW trick and they loved that. I will be returning mine.
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magicshowprod Regular user Seattle, WA 109 Posts |
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On Jul 10, 2015, robd wrote: And I came SOOOOOO close to buying that one also. It looked so great. I have to admit, this experience has really made me a lot more buy-shy. Buying on-line is nice and all, but nothing beats a good magic shop....which don't really exist in Washington anymore unfortunately.
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Robmonster Elite user 455 Posts |
This page is no longer working at Ellusionist:- http://www.ellusionist.com/change.html
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James Conti Elite user My mum isn't too pleased about my 425 Posts |
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On Jul 14, 2015, Robmonster wrote: Discontinued?
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Dougini Inner circle The Beautiful State Of Maine 7130 Posts |
Just to be fair to Ellusionist, ignore their hype! I've never pre-ordered or been sucked in by this. No. Go to Ellusionist's site and look at their Playing Card lineup. The Ghost Deck. All the gaff versions. The Black Tiger Deck. The Arcane Deck. You won't find these anywhere else!
They have The Messado Rings! The INFORMANT Wallet, Black Sponge Balls, some serious custom coins, and a nice looking Scotch & Soda set. Let the hype roll right off! This is a GREAT place to shop! Doug |
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weepinwil Inner circle USA 3828 Posts |
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On Jul 14, 2015, Robmonster wrote: Probably damage control. It keeps people from citing ad copy for paypal disputes. Just more deception; however, may not work in their favor. I have never seen such anger sparked over a bad trick before in my life so that should say something about how people feel about it. They also seem to have stopped issuing return authorizations.
"Til Death us do part!" - Weepin Willie
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Tom G Inner circle 2895 Posts |
Hopefully it opened their eyes a little.
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RNK Inner circle 7493 Posts |
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On Jul 14, 2015, Tom G wrote: Doubt it. Doesn't seem to effect other companies, i.s Sansmind.
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weepinwil Inner circle USA 3828 Posts |
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On Jul 9, 2015, altrez wrote: Ask Ellusionist, they told me the positive response was overwhelming.
"Til Death us do part!" - Weepin Willie
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Robmonster Elite user 455 Posts |
With respect, they also told us this was the only colour change we'd ever need.
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weepinwil Inner circle USA 3828 Posts |
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On Jul 14, 2015, Robmonster wrote: It is if you only do one color change. I always advertise that I offer the last change of clothes you will ever need.
"Til Death us do part!" - Weepin Willie
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weepinwil Inner circle USA 3828 Posts |
I just submitted my review on the Ellusionist site. We'll see if they post it. I reviewed it fairly, I think, but only gave it 1 star. There are 12 reviews but didn't recognize any names from the Café'. Out of 1000 sold, 12 reviews ranging from 3 to 5 stars isn't exactly what I'd call overwhelmingly positive, as they stated to me.
"Til Death us do part!" - Weepin Willie
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Chessmann Inner circle 4242 Posts |
I copied and pasted my review posts from here into 1 post in the review section on their Forum in response to the "they were disappointed by the simplicity of the method" & "they didn't want to put in the effort re: angles" malarky.
Can't assume honesty in any section of their site, sadly.
My ex-cat was named "Muffin". "Vomit" would be a better name for her. AKA "The Evil Ball of Fur".
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altrez Loyal user Kentucky 218 Posts |
I am still waiting for the live performances!
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robd Loyal user 251 Posts |
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On Jul 14, 2015, Dougini wrote: So we should be fair to them by ignoring what they say themselves, in their own advertising material, about their own product? |
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weepinwil Inner circle USA 3828 Posts |
I do not know the people at Ellusionist or what they have or have never done, but my experience is that most magic shops I have been to are staffed by demonstrators and not active performing magicians. If this is the situation with them I can understand why they were smitten by this product. If they are staffed by performing magicians then there is no excuse.
"Til Death us do part!" - Weepin Willie
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gtx magic Special user United Kingdom England 954 Posts |
The reviews from the 3rd to 10th July = 12 only and no negative feed back. They tell us they have had overwhelming positive feed back and they are out of stock on the first batch.
I wonder where all the other reviews are,Mmmmm makes you wonder doesn't it !!!
Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
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Chessmann Inner circle 4242 Posts |
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On Jul 14, 2015, weepinwil wrote: I would feel comfortable saying that Brad Christian and Lloyd Barnes are in the latter category enough to be held accountable for their products and marketing.
My ex-cat was named "Muffin". "Vomit" would be a better name for her. AKA "The Evil Ball of Fur".
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Paul S Wingham Inner circle 1378 Posts |
Change arrived today. Arguably the most hyped trick of all time (but certainly this year). Did it live up to the hype? well in truth; no, not really! But it is pretty cool / fun to play with.
A game changer? Well again; no! The reason if nothing else, is simple; you couldn't perform it frequently enough to change any games. You wont for instance be doing the red/blue change at a wedding for a group in my opinion, unless you are very brave. Not an issue per se and not a bad trick because of that, but the hype was so massive and in my opinion, E should have said there are lighting and significant angle restrictions for some cards. If they had; I think people's expectations would be a bit lower and they'd have still sold lots. In Summary; good for camera, not so great for live performance unless you can control the angles very well. Don't expect this to be something you do walkaround or anywhere you cant carefully control the line of sight. Once I film it (the reason I bought it) I think my kids will enjoy playing with the cards so I wont lose any sleep over this one, but I have to say; it may be my age but I prefer the sort of marketing that places like rsvp and alakazam do. They tell you about a product honestly and without excessive hype, they answer questions honestly to help you decide if its for you or not and then support you and forums once its live. For me; the hype was just a bit too much and as a consequence people are gunning for E on forums. I sort of don't think you can blame them. |
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JackMagic Inner circle 1982 Posts |
It's is very clear E are selling to the non working magicians
The bedroom magician who likes to film a YouTube video to show to mates Nothing about this or most of its products are workers As for the reviews the same people write the positive reviews the Other ones end up in the bin ( unlike penguin who post both good and bad reviews) Hopefully the next thing that is hyped by E or Sanns Minds People will remember |
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