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bsears
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I'm sad to say that I have been having serious reliability issues with my Fairplay gimmick ever since it came out of the box. I have read where others are having issues as well. The gimmick is "triggered" for me less than half the time I use it. It's unacceptable and embarrassing. I'd be curious to hear who else has had problems, if there are any easy solutions, and if anyone has had any luck in returning an unreliable unit for one that works better. I really want this fixed - I love the routine. Thanks.
Bro Gilbert
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Hi Bsears, very sorry that your gimmick is not working correctly. Please send me a private message and we can discuss details. I will make sure you are 100% taken care of and have a perfectly functioning new unit. Thanks for your patience.
Rocky
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I visited a magic shop and asked for a demo of Fair Play. The demo model failed (counterperson blamed it on the number of demonstrations the unit had been through since the shipment arrived 3 days earlier). He opened another to show me how it should play...the newly opened unit failed. The counterperson opened yet another unit...again the unit was uncooperative.

The counterperson pointed me to an Elmwood magic effect called Free Will. This has been one of my best purchases of the year. Similar to Fair Play but no need for a fancy key chain gimmick to get to your final reveal. Cheaper too.


I think Fair Play is a wonderful idea, but like the original poster as well as my own experience at the counter, and complaints I've seen on-line regarding the integrity of the Fair Play prop it may be best advised to stay away from Fair Play. Pity as it really is an ingenious way to present an old effect.
Bro Gilbert
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Hi Rocky same applies to you please let me know where you purchased a faulty unit and I will make sure all parties involved receive a perfect unit. This has been a very popular item and are defective rate has actually been very low for the number of units sold. We always do are best to quality check every single unit but on large number runs inevitably some defects slip through the cracks. Thanks for your patience and I will look forward to speaking with you.
metaplayer
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I've had no trouble with Fair Play and get great reactions. The transparent plastic 'holder' is all scratched up now after months in my pocket BUT:
that gives me an excuse to pull out the inner prediction (to be able to read it). I've found that a quick firm pull on it in the necessary direction has always set it correctly for me. The Fair play unit (in my pocket) also sometimes doubles as a hold out for coin routines.
I always have it with me.
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1 out of 3 times I worry (the center position). The other 2 times it works pretty well. Of course we just have to hope the spectator doesn't want to give it a firm shake or anything similar (I never give them the opportunity). It is annoying how much effort it takes to reset but it does work decently enough. If I could buy a backup unit at a discount I would.

Mine is also completely scratched up, but I think that makes it seem more "real". As long as I can read the code on the back I'm happy.

I'll also say Bro reached out to me earlier regarding issues - I wasn't able to get back to him but I thought it was a great gesture.
John C
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On Jul 3, 2015, Rocky wrote:
I visited a magic shop and asked for a demo of Fair Play. The demo model failed (counterperson blamed it on the number of demonstrations the unit had been through since the shipment arrived 3 days earlier). He opened another to show me how it should play...the newly opened unit failed. The counterperson opened yet another unit...again the unit was uncooperative.

The counterperson pointed me to an Elmwood magic effect called Free Will. This has been one of my best purchases of the year. Similar to Fair Play but no need for a fancy key chain gimmick to get to your final reveal. Cheaper too.


I think Fair Play is a wonderful idea, but like the original poster as well as my own experience at the counter, and complaints I've seen on-line regarding the integrity of the Fair Play prop it may be best advised to stay away from Fair Play. Pity as it really is an ingenious way to present an old effect.


I just have a hard time believing this. Sorry.
Rocky
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I just have a hard time believing this. Sorry. [/quote]

No need to be sorry.
I wouldn't have believed it either had I not been there to experience it.
Zee
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I got mine a long time ago and it is still working perfectly for me. I guess I am pretty lucky Smile
Rocky
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John C...you may want to browse through the threads on Latest and Greatest under the heading Paul Harris presents Fair Play. In under 2 minutes of randomly scanning various pages I counted 7 posters who had various issues with the reliability of the gimmick. I am not saying that the gimmick always going to be undependable, only that there seems to be issues with many of the units magicians have purchased with their hard earned money.

Even if one is lucky like Zee...the gimmick itself is an odd looking and clumsy addition to a key chain. The great news is that Paul Harris is helping to promote just about every trick of the week that one can find advertised, and depending on who you may talk to they either all suck or all have been added to someone's existing bag of tricks!

LONG LIVE THE ART OF MAGIC!
bsears
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Update: I can now state unequivocally that I had a bad gimmick. I just received my replacement today from Penguin Magic (shout out to them for the excellent customer service) and this one "feels" quite different. On my old, unreliable one, there was a bit more resistance when pulling it from the holder. This new one slides out effortlessly and seems to have no issues at all.

I'm a big fan of the routine, btw. I think it's organic, commercial, and extremely deceptive in the right hands.

Thanks to Bro Gilbert as well for the PMs and customer service on his end. Looking forward to getting this one back in the act!
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