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MrTipsyTiger
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Hello Magicians,

After a 15 year break from studying and practicing magical illusions I have decided to return. I feel as if I'm literally starting over, because I can't remember vocabulary, and many other things. I'm looking for the name of the gimmick used to produce a silk cloth from apparently empty hands. Is there a name for this gimmick, or is it so standard that magicians just make their own?

Thank you in advance for taking the time to respond.
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There are many methods.

Why do you need a gimmick for a simple silk production?
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Mr. TT, I suspect you're thinking of a TT.
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If it's the gimmick I'm thinking of, some people call it a "Vernet."
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Sanada gimmick.
Jay Scott Berry sells some wonderful variations of the Sanada gimmick.
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Your thinking of a "thumb tip". Vernet seems to be the brand of choice for most magicians. Very inexpensive.
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Welcome to the Café, MrTipsyTiger! Yes. I use a jumbo Vernet. Best there is.

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Both Ihop and Bobby Forbes are correct. I think the TT is easier to ditch and allow you to be "clean" afterwards. But I remember when I first saw the Sanada gimmick demonstrated, and I was completely floored by it.

There are other more complicated rigs created over the years to accomplish similar productions, but in my opinion, these two - short of sleight of hand - are the simplest and most direct.
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I thought all TT's were basically the same. Is this not the case? What is the difference between the two mentioned above?
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OK, this is pretty well-known. Here it is on Penguin's site:

http://images.penguinmagic.com/images/so......full.jpg

It fits like this:

http://www.bazardemagia.com/ver_imagen.p......g&tipo=4

It's OK. It works. The two Vernets are Jumbo and regular. The two center ones:

http://www.clownsupplies.com/magic/images/thumbtip.jpg

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Wow, I had no idea, thank you for clarifying Dougini. I'm only family with the Vernets. Something new to consider for vanishes.
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I dunno. The Sanada is unique, but just not for me. The jumbo Vernet is my workhorse...

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The Vernet has many good uses. You might get use out of the Sanada. I rarely see it used, no pun intended. These tools are only limited to your imagination. I'm still trying to wrap my head around the Fujiwara Gimmick and Fujiwara Gimmick 2.

Just variations on a theme. Same idea. The Vernet, though is the tool I find I use most often. The others, you have to have your hand in a weird position. Dead giveaway. Kills that idea for me.

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There are also things like the Palmo ball, in one form or another. I can't recall the name but there was one produced with a nice extension that gave you more handling options. With these of course you can use a much larger silk than with a TT, but at the cost of more 'handwashing' gestures.
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The Palmo does a nice color-change with 18" silks. Use with a Topit to vanish.

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On Jul 27, 2015, magiccollector69 wrote:
There are also things like the Palmo ball, in one form or another. I can't recall the name but there was one produced with a nice extension that gave you more handling options. With these of course you can use a much larger silk than with a TT, but at the cost of more 'handwashing' gestures.


The name of the other device came to me. It's a Nikko Ball. Viking sells it, though from the photo it's not as elegant a model as th4 originals I've seen from older manufacturers. Sort of looks like they used a thumbtack for the extension (though I expect it's not a thumbtack.)
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If you want to watch some amazing work with the Sanada gimmick, try to find work by Jay Scott Berry.
He lectured at my SAM meeting using his version of the Sanada. It has 2 compartments, so you can change silk colors , silk to sponge ball, etc.
He sells it on his website.
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I've been fooled by the Sanada before. So I can't knock it. I've gotten so accustomed to the Vernet, the Palmo and the Simplex, it's hard to imagine anything better. I will look up Berry though. Thanks Ihop!

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Doug,
What's a Simplex?
I searched for it on the Penguin website but couldn't find it.
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Never mind, Doug.
I found it.
I'm going to Tannens' and Fantasma tomorrow.
I may pick one up. It looks cheap enough to give it a try.
If I have time, I'll also stop by Café Rustico. The Saturday afternoon magician hangout.
It'll be a good day.
Ihor
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