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Martin_Eisele
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The before mentioned app 'SD Poker' for Pit's effect 'The Poker Formulas' got an update a while ago so that it works together with the 'Vision' app. You can now perform the effect from any shuffled deck!

Here you can find a short demo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzGIFk5kZtQ

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Looks great Martin!
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Any plan to release that app for android users ?
Martin_Eisele
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Not yet, I'm sorry. Currently I'm working on several enhancements for Vision. I first have to finish these and will then see.
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Hi Martin. Thank you for your answer. That would be great. The combination of both apps is just incredible!
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On Aug 29, 2016, alecStephenson wrote: It's extremely unlikely, but bear in mind that you might mis-identify the card in Sherlock. If you have 18 19 21 20 22 23 then the card could be 20 or 21, but you cannot know which. Charles Jordan was aware of this issue back in 1919 but to my knowledge nobody since then has mentioned it in print.

Does anyone came up with a solution for a fair selection and replacement to avoid the problem?
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I wrote the following directly afterwards:

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On Aug 29, 2016, sgtgrey wrote:
That's one potential issue with Sherlock, but that's easily dealt with as you can usually find identifying features between the two cards and go fishing for a moment (or, as an example - remove one and cut the other to the top of the deck in prep for top change and do a miscall for the one on top of the deck - if wrong, show the one in your hand, otherwise get your applause and top change if you feel the need to show it around).

The other potential issue is that based on the handling (either in replacement or during shuffling), there is a VERY slight chance of not knowing anything about the chosen card - in which case mnemonicosis is your best friend for that very unlucky outcome.


The problem isn't just selection/replacement, but the odds of the spectator shuffling the card back into position. I can say from experience that it CAN happen, because it did happen to me once. However, given the low odds it is rare that it will happen. As I mentioned, when it does happen, you can immediately go into mnemonicosis as an out. It's not ideal, but it worked just fine the time I had to do it and no one was any wiser. It's not a problem if you are aware that it can happen and you are prepared to handle it if it does occur.
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I love the idea to let the spectator shuffle the cards and be back in stack afterwards. However, it happened to me sometimes that the card was placed to the same position. Since the stripping sequence is quiete long I dislike to finish with a weak ending. More often it happens 2 cards changed places which can easily solved. But I like to have the best outcome anytime.
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This is such a wonderful book! Interesting presentations to some very fun looking effects.

I can't wait to try some of these out. Thanks to Pit!
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On Aug 29, 2016, alecStephenson wrote: It's extremely unlikely, but bear in mind that you might mis-identify the card in Sherlock. If you have 18 19 21 20 22 23 then the card could be 20 or 21, but you cannot know which. Charles Jordan was aware of this issue back in 1919 but to my knowledge nobody since then has mentioned it in print.

Does anyone came up with a solution for a fair selection and replacement to avoid the problem?


I changed the procedure. Had the chance to ask Pit about this and he simply has another deck ready just in case. He likes the image of the spectator going away to select the card, but I don't trust them AT ALL, as they might have difficulties handling a fanned deck. I'd rather have them cut the deck in four packets after one single cut. I turn my back, let them pick up one of the cut to cards and bury it in that packet or in any other. Then, the mixing. Etc. I prefer this approach, much similar to Tamariz's La bomba. It is foolproof.
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FYI, I'm selling my copy right now for $35usd plus shipping. This is an incredible book though. Just downsizing my collection. It's a beautiful book.
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Update: sorry, the book has sold.
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I dribble the cards show card stopped at give chance to change or dribble again. After they have looked at card dribble a few more cards say 5 or 6 and replace card. Now when they shuffle twice it’s impossible for card to be shuffled back to position.
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Good idea.

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