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Tom Jorgenson
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Tommy, I'm not doing anything about it, but then again, I am not pretending to. I fix what I can, near me, and don't waste time on things I cannot change. For me this forum is entertainment, education and sharing. It is not a vehicle for fear, hatred, insults and 'Sky is Falling' stupidity. The sky is always falling.

I hope that responded to your post...you're a bit incoherent lately, so I really have no idea if it did or not. It may be that I am out of tune with the arc of your paranoia/knowledge/beliefs. I do believe, like you seem to, that there are larger manipulations afoot that we do not know about, and the various theories in front of us are simply customized red flags a dancing to distract us, to allow us to think we are on some right path of paranoid discovery and prevention. Therefore, there is nothing to be done about it exept handle what is closest to us as best we can. That is time consuming enough.

The Question is, Tommy, are our benevolent overlords good or evil? I believe they are good.
We dance an invisible dance to music they cannot hear.
Slim King
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On Jul 27, 2015, irossall wrote:
The Vietnam war or "Police Action" which it was called when I served ( seems that now it is a declared War) was brought to an end when those who spoke up finally woke up the masses and that's when the protests got really big.
So speaking out can get other's to wake up and smell the fish. Power to The People! if we choose to exercise that power. E Pluribus Unum.
-Iven

Viet Nam proves that the powers that be will let over 50,000 american boys die for what???? NOTHING....
Perhaps you can explain why that even after the French Foreign Legion said the war was unwinnable the leaders still threw those lives away????

Why waste all of this money. We spend more on defense than the next ten nations COMBINED!!!!
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irossall
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Don't forget the two incidents in the Gulf of Tonkin.
-Iven
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Saw my new favorite shirt yesterday here in Las Vegas.

"Vietnam... We were winning when I left."

I take no position other than that shirt was funny.
Danny Doyle
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<BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell
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On Jul 27, 2015, irossall wrote:
Don't forget the two incidents in the Gulf of Tonkin.
-Iven


You mean the two events that may have never happened at all?
Dannydoyle
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Yes those two conspiracies.

Those things that might not have happened are the toughest for "them" to cover up. Sometimes even "they" have to get involved it is so intricate.
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<BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell
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On Jul 27, 2015, mastermindreader wrote:
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On Jul 27, 2015, irossall wrote:
Don't forget the two incidents in the Gulf of Tonkin.
-Iven


You mean the two events that may have never happened at all?


Where did I ever say these two events never happened? Please show me so I can remark on what I said.

A National Security Agency report released in 2007 reveals that the August 4th 1964 "attack" NEVER happened. The August 2nd event happened but under different circumstances than the public was told.

Captain Carl Otis Schuster (U.S. Navy ret.) Has a very interesting story in the June 2008 issue of Vietnam Magazine.
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Slim King
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Hey BOB ... What were "WE" doing in Viet Nam?

Are we training these kids for the same insanity?
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reese
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What's going on with the "concerns" about Jade Helm? Are y'all still concerned about a take over ? I must'a missed a post or two.
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On Jul 28, 2015, Slim King wrote:
Hey BOB ... What were "WE" doing in Viet Nam?

Are we training these kids for the same insanity?


Why did you capitalize "we?" Were you in the service back then?

Hopefully there will be no more Vietnams. But, in case you didn't know, we train our military so that they can defend our country and so that they can do so effectively with the best possible chance of not being killed or seriously injured.

Why do you think that's a waste of tax dollars? Would you prefer to just give weapons to a bunch of untrained civilian yahoos, send them off to fight, and hope for the best?
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On Jul 28, 2015, irossall wrote:
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On Jul 27, 2015, mastermindreader wrote:
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On Jul 27, 2015, irossall wrote:
Don't forget the two incidents in the Gulf of Tonkin.
-Iven


You mean the two events that may have never happened at all?


Where did I ever say these two events never happened? Please show me so I can remark on what I said.

A National Security Agency report released in 2007 reveals that the August 4th 1964 "attack" NEVER happened. The August 2nd event happened but under different circumstances than the public was told.

Captain Carl Otis Schuster (U.S. Navy ret.) Has a very interesting story in the June 2008 issue of Vietnam Magazine.
-Iven


I didn't write that you said it never happened. Please show me where I allegedly wrote that. My post was simply to highlight the fact that the Tonkin Gulf incidents never took place as we were told. It was a direct response to your post that simply ssid "Don't forget the two incidents in the Gulf of Tonkin." (Which clearly implies that two incidents actually happened.)
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Our overlords, and I mean the real owners in the big club, are not evil. Their ideal world is one where the people are born to serve their world state, which is run by their appointed experts. Now the best expert to run such a world is a computer. The computer would be programmed to create the world they want. This computer would receive data on everybody and issue orders to the military to deal with anybody that is not acting according to the world they want. The world they want is a green and pleasant land. It is not evil to stop you little people destroying the planet. We can’t be having you little people creating too much C02 can we?
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Tom Jorgenson
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That clarifies things, thanks. Didn't Hawkins recently throw out some dire warnings regarding all that AI growth?

Who wrote the Sci-Fi story about the first giant computer....a Scientist asks it "Is there a God?" and the computer answers 'There is now!"

At any rate....One World is past being a theory, AI control would be a necessity, Global Warming has to be stopped (which means curtailing and handcuffing Big Oil and other destructive corporations), seems like all the conspiracy theories are correct...and all I can think of is that I'm out of coffee.

Life is hell.
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Slim King
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On Jul 15, 2015, irossall wrote:
Today is July 15, day 1 of the exercise. I hope no one is hurt or imprisoned.

I am going to keep an eye on the News and my local community.

I work only a few miles from FEMA Headquarters (region 10) so I am in a good position to see if there is a change in traffic or unusual activity.

I doubt we'll hear much on the News but I'm sure there will be isolated minor incidents in the States involved, especially Texas.

Time will tell.
-Iven


Now that the Jade Helm exercises are over, I'd like to thank irossall and his friends for making sure that the military takeover of the United States, the confiscation of citizens' arms, the dictatorial imposition of martial law and the invasion of the mole people who live in the center of the Earth did not succeed.
irossall
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Over? You ain't seen nuthin yet.
-Iven
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If you want to watch Jade Helm in action, you'll need to watch this Sunday's episode of Fear The Walking Dead. Smile
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