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Canadian Guy
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Here is what Max Maven, Tony Picasso, Derek Hughes, Michael Carbonaro, Paul Vigil, Eric Jones, Bill Herz and MANY MANY others have been talking about around Los Angeles!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DSuj6UcdTs
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They might have been talking about the guy or the dvd itself, but this trailer is the worst trailer I have ever seen, poor guy, I am sure so much work and commitment goes into making a 90 minute DVD just to have a trailer worth 0 that will help sell 0

The trailer should show clearly the effects or some of them and that's it, get rid of the fancy stuff

I am saying all this to help, its harsh but when he sees no sales let him reconsider the trailer.
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I completely agree with MuscleMagic on this. I liked the apple logo at the very beginning, it would look good on a black or dark blue T-shirt, but that was the only good point and it all went downhill very rapidly from there. The trailer is terrible. Whoever is responsible for producing it couldn't sell cold water in the desert. I urge the performer to have it reshot as soon as possible.
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I concur 100%.
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Yeah, he needs to spice it up with some out of focus shots of gritty urban scenes.
And at least one (probably more) of him staring off into the distance pensively.
Then add a couple effect demos with key elements edited out.
That should make it perfect.

NOT.
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I've seen Mike work in the Hat and Hare at the Magic Castle for several years now. He's the real deal, personable and engaging. And he'll fry you, again and again.

Those who know about Mike's work have been anxiously waiting for this release for a long time. Forget about the trailer. Just buy the DVD. You'll be glad that you did.
"To achieve great things, two things are needed: a plan and not quite enough time."

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He's the real deal, personable and engaging.


I'd never heard of the performer before. But the trailer communicated that to me.
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The magic world seems to be full of slick advertisements for material that's essentially worthless. That's not the case here. Mike Pisciotta has performed these routines thousands of times, and every one of them works in the real world. They're well constructed, deceptive, and entertaining. (The coin routine alone is worth the price of admission.)

But magic wannabes should look elsewhere. This DVD contains very little in the way of instant gratification. This is the kind of material that requires practice and study. You won't be performing these items five minutes after watching the DVD. And that's a good thing.
"To achieve great things, two things are needed: a plan and not quite enough time."

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From the first few comments I thought it was one of those MTV style trailers with jump cuts and shots of leaves rustling in an urban street but it's not. It's a straightforward trailer that gives a lot of info about the contents.
Magic Mike

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Just to be clear, I'm not questioning the man's skill and I don't think anyone else who didn't care for the trailer was, either. And for me, "out of focus shots of gritty urban scenes and him staring off into the distance pensively" would have made it worse, not better. I simply would be more interested in a trailer which didn't cram two small black-and-white descriptions into every brief scene. Not everyone has perfect vision and I don't enjoy having to be within kissing distance of the monitor, squinting, to see what the performer is trying to sell. And towards the end, what does the potential buyer get out of him sitting at the table laughing with someone else when that time segment of this very brief trailer could have been used to say something else about a DVD that's 90 minutes long?

The man isn't being attacked here, the trailer is. And given that the first three responses were overwhelmingly negative, we're not talking about one isolated incident. Not everyone can buy every DVD on the market, a lot of us have limited funds, so when someone is trying to sell something they should make the best trailer possible. That didn't happen in this case, and when a lot of people haven't even heard of the performer (I never had before this thread) the trailer needs to be better because there are lots of products to choose from out there.

I'll wind up buying this DVD while it's still $25, but only because of the testimony of the people in this thread who typed up approving words of support for Mr. Pisciotta. If I had stumbled upon the trailer myself I'd have passed it by and never gone back. Plenty of DVD trailers are full of words of glowing praise, and this one does less than nothing to distinguish itself from others. I see nothing unfair about what MuscleMagic said and don't even know why "instant gratification" was added to the discussion since the critique was about the trailer, not the performer or the product. The bottom line is that at least in my case, Mr. Pisciotta's supporters in this thread are doing a much better job of selling the DVD than the trailer is.
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Roger,

You're right; thanks for pointing that out. I agree that the trailer isn't the best one that I've ever seen. It's also not the worst one either. (I thank inigmntoya for describing the type of trailer that drives me crazy.) I do think that saying "Whoever is responsible for producing it couldn't sell cold water in the desert" is a little bit of an exaggeration. Smile

I don't feel any need to defend the trailer. As you rightly pointed out, I was letting the nice folks at the Magic Café know what I think about Mike. I didn't want anybody to pass this by based on the trailer alone. I have feeling that once some folks start using this material, the Magic Apple will be able to sell quite a few of Mike's DVDs.
"To achieve great things, two things are needed: a plan and not quite enough time."

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And for me, "out of focus shots of gritty urban scenes and him staring off into the distance pensively" would have made it worse, not better.


inigmntoya was being sarcastic.
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Smile Smile Smile Smile

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The magic world seems to be full of slick advertisements for material that's essentially worthless. That's not the case here. Mike Pisciotta has performed these routines thousands of times, and every one of them works in the real world. They're well constructed, deceptive, and entertaining. (The coin routine alone is worth the price of admission.)

But magic wannabes should look elsewhere. This DVD contains very little in the way of instant gratification. This is the kind of material that requires practice and study. You won't be performing these items five minutes after watching the DVD. And that's a good thing.
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Not everyone can buy every DVD on the market, a lot of us have limited funds...

If I had stumbled upon the trailer myself I'd have passed it by and never gone back...


I don't buy anything based on the trailer. If something in a trailer piques my interest I then start to research it more, see what people other than those quoted say, etc. More commonly I'll see what other people whose opinions I respect have to say about their recent purchases and go from there.

Given the more detailed description from Barry, I think this lower-key but polished and professional looking trailer hit its target market well.
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"To achieve great things, two things are needed: a plan and not quite enough time."

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On Jul 31, 2015, RogerTheShrubber wrote:
And for me, "out of focus shots of gritty urban scenes and him staring off into the distance pensively" would have made it worse, not better.


inigmntoya was being sarcastic.


I know. I was letting him know that what he describe wasn't what I was looking for.
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Roger,

You're right; thanks for pointing that out. I agree that the trailer isn't the best one that I've ever seen. It's also not the worst one either. (I thank inigmntoya for describing the type of trailer that drives me crazy.) I do think that saying "Whoever is responsible for producing it couldn't sell cold water in the desert" is a little bit of an exaggeration. Smile

I don't feel any need to defend the trailer. As you rightly pointed out, I was letting the nice folks at the Magic Café know what I think about Mike. I didn't want anybody to pass this by based on the trailer alone. I have feeling that once some folks start using this material, the Magic Apple will be able to sell quite a few of Mike's DVDs.


Oh, of course it was an exaggeration, no argument there. I just found myself taken aback because when I read MuscleMagic's post and I thought "C'mon, it can't be THAT bad," only to then watch it and find myself thinking it was. And it was your testimony that made me decide to buy it. I think what irked me most about the trailer is that it added nothing to the page that it linked to.
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On Jul 31, 2015, RogerTheShrubber wrote:
Not everyone can buy every DVD on the market, a lot of us have limited funds...

If I had stumbled upon the trailer myself I'd have passed it by and never gone back...


I don't buy anything based on the trailer. If something in a trailer piques my interest I then start to research it more, see what people other than those quoted say, etc. More commonly I'll see what other people whose opinions I respect have to say about their recent purchases and go from there.

Given the more detailed description from Barry, I think this lower-key but polished and professional looking trailer hit its target market well.


A trailer alone won't sell me on anything either, but a bad one will make me pass on a product. And if we can take it as a given that the target market is at least somewhat experienced magicians (an assumption I make given that the word "Triumph" in a sales pitch for a magic DVD is unlikely to mean anything to the layman), I'd disagree with you that the trailer hit its target market well. I was sold on the DVD by a member of the Café, not the trailer, and the first three people who commented on it in this thread weren't impressed either. Maybe a little more display of at least one effect and a little less James-Patterson-chapter-length shots crammed together in the same screen might have helped. If I had anything close to the man's skill level and were selling a DVD, that trailer is a far cry from the one I'd want for my product. My two cents only, of course.
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On Jul 31, 2015, inigmntoya wrote:
Yeah, he needs to spice it up with some out of focus shots of gritty urban scenes.
And at least one (probably more) of him staring off into the distance pensively.
Then add a couple effect demos with key elements edited out.
That should make it perfect.

NOT.



Best comment ever.
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On Jul 31, 2015, BarryFernelius wrote:
This.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VEeqQwjpPtA



Wow. Thanks for sharing Barry!

The first viewing was pure magic. A second review, and I realized it's a very standard routine - he just changes the pacing from what I'm used to. Very cool!
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