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daniltan
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Just watched the trailer. What's the point of that effect? It's insane.. It's bad.. Perhaps if you have another video for me to see? So I can change my mind. Please..

P.S. This is the link http://www.ellusionist.com/iris-by-lloyd-barnes.html
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Doesn't look as good as Melt 2.0 imo
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Ellusionist doesn't half release some **** nowadays.
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How can you convince laymen with this effect? IMO, just showing the regular card wont help. The movement of the hand drop down that fast is so telling anyone to inspect the whole deck. It's too suspicious. I agree, Melt2.0 is far more better than this.
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LLoyd Barnes ?


Ellusionist ?


Ahahaha, are people gonna still buy things from these guys ? Come on, this is crap as was Change, please, stop !

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This could CHANGE our lives forever !!! A new magic revolution has begun.be prepared for famed recognition through out the world. Smile
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Not usually one to pile on, but after CHANGE, it will be a very long time before I invest in anything Lloyd creates,

Unless reviews start rolling in that the gimmick literally grants the power to dematerialize objects, I can't see myself buying anything he releases.
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There's only 1000 of these available. Fact. When they're gone, they're gone. Get your preorder in now.
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There's only 1000 of these available. Fact. When they're gone, they're gone. Get your preorder in now.


"Fact."

That's perfect.
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It's almost like Ellusionist is trolling us to see what people will buy.

Melt is 10000x better.
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Oh dear. I've said this before but I've really enjoyed a number of Lloyds' previous releases but this feels like it's cut from the same cloth as change, albeit a different method. Possibly useable for a camera, but I don't think anyone is going to fool for this close up whether you switch the card or not. For me the crown is still held by melt which can be seen performed to the general public many many times.

I could be wrong and it could be totally useable but why are these tricks filmed straight to camera in a living room, rather than in real performance. It sounds like I am bashing Lloyd and I'm not, I just don't think this is going to be practical for real world performance and generally speaking I am sick of magic being released that isn't performable outside of youtube.
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Right ... So they clearly stated this gimmick is not the same as Change ? Probably they know most are fed up with Change and wanted to specify it's different than Change so that others might buy it ?

Well this looks as awful as change ... And plus the switch is like the switch used in Wonderbox Trailer by Sansmids , expect everything is terrible ...
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Oh dear. I've said this before but I've really enjoyed a number of Lloyds' previous releases but this feels like it's cut from the same cloth as change, albeit a different method. Possibly useable for a camera, but I don't think anyone is going to fool for this close up whether you switch the card or not. For me the crown is still held by melt which can be seen performed to the general public many many times.

I could be wrong and it could be totally useable but why are these tricks filmed straight to camera in a living room, rather than in real performance. It sounds like I am bashing Lloyd and I'm not, I just don't think this is going to be practical for real world performance and generally speaking I am sick of magic being released that isn't performable outside of youtube.

Agree! I also want to see other video for this effect. The trailer right now is unbelievable to be displayed on E. It was too painful to see it there.

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Right ... So they clearly stated this gimmick is not the same as Change ? Probably they know most are fed up with Change and wanted to specify it's different than Change so that others might buy it ?

Well this looks as awful as change ... And plus the switch is like the switch used in Wonderbox Trailer by Sansmids , expect everything is terrible ...

To be honest, I couldn't see the switch since he just took a different card from off the camera view (in my view point, though).
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Wow, pretty harsh criticism. I understand coming right off of Change that people will be super critical because a lot of people feel they got burned; but some comments are just mean.

The visual of this is kind of cool but how on earth do you naturally switch the card out at the end? It would be a pretty awkward handling to hold a deck throughout the trick; I'm only guessing that is what is suggested in the explanation for this.
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Wow, pretty harsh criticism. I understand coming right off of Change that people will be super critical because a lot of people feel they got burned; but some comments are just mean.



Maybe if E would have bucked up and admitted their mistakes and not criticized others so arrogantly these comments would not have been so mean.
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Is this for real? It's the sort of effect that, had I come up with it, I would never have thought I could market it.
Yet here we are. Wow.
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Ya think they had this trick/demo in the can before the Change debacle, and couldn't afford to not release? Otherwise, F everyone involved. As the old saying goes, this is insult after injury.

I really can't wrap my head around this- I can only hope that this is some kind of devious 'marketing masterstroke', a-la New Coke, and that the jokes on us. Perhaps Lloyd and E are actually trying to reinvigorate sales for Melt 2.0, by pretending to promote this laughably inferior product?
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This isn't a trick, it's a moment, it's an idea for a moment.

I could certainly have seen this being flushed out into something worthwhile, but what I'm seeing in the demo video is not it.
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I think I shall invent a gimmick by printing random things on some cards ... Easy profit ~
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This isn't a trick, it's a moment, it's an idea for a moment.

I could certainly have seen this being flushed out into something worthwhile, but what I'm seeing in the demo video is not it.


I think that's it. It's not a terribly bad moment but in isolation there is going to be so much heat on that card and unless its a very clever gimmick, you didn't see it being rung in; you just saw a hand dip out of shot and come back with a card. I assume the same needs to be done in reverse. Imagine if you could do something like this and then move effortlessly in to melt; you'd have a nice additional phase. However; I'm still not convinced people wont assume / be able to see the card is gimmicked at close range.

Come on; you flew all the way to New York; pop out to a bar and film it being done live. If nothing else it'll shut people like me up.
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