The Magic Café
Username:
Password:
[ Lost Password ]
  [ Forgot Username ]
The Magic Cafe Forum Index » » Latest and Greatest? » » Phantom by Peter Eggink (97 Likes) Printer Friendly Version

 Go to page [Previous]  1~2~3..10~11~12~13~14~15~16~17 [Next]
Paul S Wingham
View Profile
Inner circle
1364 Posts

Profile of Paul S Wingham
Quote:
On Sep 8, 2015, Christopher Williams wrote:
Quote:
On Sep 8, 2015, Peter Eggink wrote:
Here's a full performance video of the Rising Card effect with gimmick in play incl. the "secret move" (which in real life situations won't be noticed by your specs. due to the natural build-in misdirection).

https://youtu.be/RH_h0L2elps


Thanks,

Peter


I wonder how many will change their mind now Peter... I don't actually think it looks bad at all, and some say it is an unnatural handling... have you see the way Magicians 'juggle cards', how some do their 'DL'?! What constitutes as natural?! I may take advantage of someone selling theirs second hand after seeing this, I have some ideas I can think would work with this. Have you seen how lay people shuffle a deck?! How clumsy some of them are, and how they handle a pack of cards like it is red hot?! We don't see the way they shuffle a pack of cards or whatever as natural, as it isn't natural to us, however if it is natural to them.

Well done Peter


The issue is Chris; the demo didn't show this honest presentation, it deliberately hid the fact the pen was in play and only when called out was the honest demo offered up. Kinda like closing the stable door once the horse has bolted in my opinion. I think most people's grievance is the dishonesty that suggested we were getting something a lot cleaner than is actually the case. We can do a similar effect with a loop that is much cleaner. It's not the fact it is unworkable because it does work, its just I didn't want a version of haunted deck / rising card that is a lot less clean than almost everything that came before phantom.
TuneHV
View Profile
Inner circle
New York
1789 Posts

Profile of TuneHV
Quote:
On Sep 8, 2015, Ceierry wrote:
OMG it show 95$ now :s


There were only a few left from the seller who listed it for $20... those sold out so now it's showing another seller at the full price.
David Jonathan
- - - - - - - - - -
SNAPS | You Know | CAANWICH | Fourtunate | Destined | Wrong Turn | Fortuity | Arbitrium | Sovereign Sandwich | RudiMental

More Info: www.davidjonathanmagic.com
reignofsound
View Profile
Inner circle
Glasgow, UK
1554 Posts

Profile of reignofsound
Will let you know if I get it or not.
I have email confirmation from them at $25 though Smile
pegasus
View Profile
Inner circle
United Kingdom
8258 Posts

Profile of pegasus
Quote:
On Sep 8, 2015, reignofsound wrote:
Will let you know if I get it or not.
I have email confirmation from them at $25 though Smile


Thank you. I can't wait to know if you get it, or not. Smile
mikenewman
View Profile
Inner circle
Maryland, home of the TAXED
1082 Posts

Profile of mikenewman
When I had mine for a few minutes.. It didn't work well at all. It kept slowing down, and wouldn't retract smooth at all. Just as in any product, there will be defective ones. There was another person on here that had issues as well I believe. I am curious if anyine else has issues? Actually I don't care. I am just glad that I wasn't the only one that doesn't like this.

I retuned it for full refund.

I have to admit, the new demo does look much better. I would fall for it again, if I didn't know any better.
reignofsound
View Profile
Inner circle
Glasgow, UK
1554 Posts

Profile of reignofsound
Quote:
On Sep 8, 2015, pegasus wrote:
Quote:
On Sep 8, 2015, reignofsound wrote:
Will let you know if I get it or not.
I have email confirmation from them at $25 though Smile


Thank you. I can't wait to know if you get it, or not. Smile


That was meant for normative

This place is too funny at times.
Every one sarky as f*$k

:)
markhitton
View Profile
Special user
948 Posts

Profile of markhitton
Good performance but not convincing Smile
Fire Starter
View Profile
Inner circle
4156 Posts

Profile of Fire Starter
Has this site been hacked or was?,i kept getting some page up earlier on this thread ,some Saver thing?.
Bill08
View Profile
Special user
Montreal
616 Posts

Profile of Bill08
I don't think there is any rationale for pre-ordering. If the creator has already approached dealers and everyone is keen on releasing the product, then raising money for manufacturing should not be an issue. As for the argument that a really great trick might end up sold-out, when something is selling strong it is only a matter of time before more are produced. My gut feeling is that pre-ordering exists as a means of selling a lot of product before any real world reviews roll in. In what way does it benefit the consumer?
Dr Spektor
View Profile
Eternal Order
Carcosa
10576 Posts

Profile of Dr Spektor
Well, I got it. I was really waiting for the miracle to happen - but it didn't.

They should have at least made it WRITE..... I mean, at least add some darn ink. ...

Everyone said it was 007 style - but I think the closest thing was Red Grant's garrotte watch - and that was WAYYYYYYYYY better in design - you could even tell the time....
"They are lean and athirst!!!!"
gtx magic
View Profile
Special user
United Kingdom England
778 Posts

Profile of gtx magic
Quote:
On Sep 9, 2015, Dr Spektor wrote:
Well, I got it. I was really waiting for the miracle to happen - but it didn't.

They should have at least made it WRITE..... I mean, at least add some darn ink. ...

Everyone said it was 007 style - but I think the closest thing was Red Grant's garrotte watch - and that was WAYYYYYYYYY better in design - you could even tell the time....


Dr Spektor

Can we take that as a not recommended. And would yourself not perform this to others.

Thanks

Graham
Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
pegasus
View Profile
Inner circle
United Kingdom
8258 Posts

Profile of pegasus
Quote:
On Sep 8, 2015, reignofsound wrote:
Quote:
On Sep 8, 2015, pegasus wrote:
Quote:
On Sep 8, 2015, reignofsound wrote:
Will let you know if I get it or not.
I have email confirmation from them at $25 though Smile


Thank you. I can't wait to know if you get it, or not. Smile


That was meant for normative

This place is too funny at times.
Every one sarky as f*$k

:)


Too late now. I will not sleep until I know this piece of junk has arrived safely in your hands. Smile
daniltan
View Profile
Elite user
478 Posts

Profile of daniltan
Quote:
On Sep 9, 2015, Dr Spektor wrote:
They should have at least made it WRITE..... I mean, at least add some darn ink. ...


That would be Phantom ver2.0
Dr Spektor
View Profile
Eternal Order
Carcosa
10576 Posts

Profile of Dr Spektor
Quote:
On Sep 8, 2015, gtx magic wrote:
Quote:
On Sep 9, 2015, Dr Spektor wrote:
Well, I got it. I was really waiting for the miracle to happen - but it didn't.

They should have at least made it WRITE..... I mean, at least add some darn ink. ...

Everyone said it was 007 style - but I think the closest thing was Red Grant's garrotte watch - and that was WAYYYYYYYYY better in design - you could even tell the time....


Dr Spektor

Can we take that as a not recommended. And would yourself not perform this to others.

Thanks

Graham


hmmm I see I was not clear...

so I shall say this:

NOT RECOMMENDED.
NEVER WILL I USE IT

I have contacted Penguin and fall upon their mercy - maybe I can get a download out of their kindness / pity as we all suffer together...

As for the other dealers - where are you now?

Well, as Pat Colney has tattooed upon her arm - CAVEAT EMPTOR

IDEA: At some magic conference we should all bring these with us and do some sort of Phantom demos - they must all flash the mechanisms, be akward, and never work correctly... we can have bottles not spin.... big globs of goo sticking out of things and such....

Special Anger: This product name has denigrated the word phantom.... and I like that word. We need to make a new product /item with this term to save the word!
"They are lean and athirst!!!!"
pelicantrapper
View Profile
Loyal user
VA
202 Posts

Profile of pelicantrapper
The video looked good. Still don't know what to think about this.
pelicantrapper
View Profile
Loyal user
VA
202 Posts

Profile of pelicantrapper
Quote:
On Sep 8, 2015, Fire Starter wrote:
Has this site been hacked or was?,i kept getting some page up earlier on this thread ,some Saver thing?.


This was happening to me as well. Not anymore though. Also, why is it that creators always have time to shoot a dvd /instructional video with a camera, but when we need a live performance the only available camera is an Iphone?
Slackerking
View Profile
Special user
613 Posts

Profile of Slackerking
At this point, anyone who buys this and is still disappointed has no one to blame but themselves.
CarlMcCoy
View Profile
Elite user
466 Posts

Profile of CarlMcCoy
Quote:
On Sep 8, 2015, Fire Starter wrote:
Has this site been hacked or was?,i kept getting some page up earlier on this thread ,some Saver thing?.



It appears so...randomly happens to me on random threads about once a month. Doesn't seem to matter what browser I use either, although it's more prevalent on Chrome.

Annoying.
dynamite magic shop
View Profile
New user
Netherlands
21 Posts

Profile of dynamite magic shop
I know Peter very well for many years, he is an honoust guy and the last thing he will do is selling you a product that cannot be used in real performance or as is shown on a video. Magicians look at methods, which is wrong, you should look at the effect.

I think the problem is not in the pen but in the magicians head. In my opinion there are two kinds (maybe even more) kinds of magicians, roughly said:

1-The kind who perform magic professionally, they will see the possibilities and work an effect in their act and think about that. Because the make an ACT and a story to it there is a natural misdirection which makes almost every effect in the real world. These performers write their acts, think carefully about what to use and work on it. They often choose the EFFECT first and then choose which method they use to establish the effect. After the act is ready and tested and polished often in an excisting act they start using it. These people already ARE magicians as they do what a magician should do.....it is a real job en involves way more then buy a trick and put it onl youtube and show how good (ahum) you are

2-The kind who buy tricks, unpack it, watch the dvd, perform the trick as it is, get caught by their family as there is no act, no story and therefore no misdirection and therefore blame the trick from being poor. After they placed some orders online they put up a website and name themselves "magician". Don't get me wrong, I am not saying there are no poor magic effects but I can tell you (I demonstrate magic for over 16 years and do shows for over 25 years) that the most poor effects can be turned into miracles if performed well.

Now, in which category would you put yourself...and if you wanted to book a magician...which type of the two would you book? Does that make sense?

Just to think about Smile

René
Dazzler UK
View Profile
Regular user
UK
108 Posts

Profile of Dazzler UK
It appeared to be a notorious browser hijacker, like the above post mentioned it doesn't matter what browser is running i.e. chrome, explorer etc. Apparently if a users equipment is infected it can do further damage if you're not protected properly. I would suggest running some scans to check for viruses and malware to anyone who has experienced this recently.
There are two rules for success..... 1. Never reveal everything you know.
The Magic Cafe Forum Index » » Latest and Greatest? » » Phantom by Peter Eggink (97 Likes)
 Go to page [Previous]  1~2~3..10~11~12~13~14~15~16~17 [Next]
X
[ Top of Page ]
All content & postings Copyright © 2001-2020 Steve Brooks. All Rights Reserved.
This page was created in 0.16 seconds requiring 5 database queries.
The views and comments expressed on The Magic Café
are not necessarily those of The Magic Café, Steve Brooks, or Steve Brooks Magic.
> Privacy Statement <

ROTFL Billions and billions served! ROTFL