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Paul S Wingham Inner circle 1378 Posts |
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On Sep 8, 2015, Christopher Williams wrote: The issue is Chris; the demo didn't show this honest presentation, it deliberately hid the fact the pen was in play and only when called out was the honest demo offered up. Kinda like closing the stable door once the horse has bolted in my opinion. I think most people's grievance is the dishonesty that suggested we were getting something a lot cleaner than is actually the case. We can do a similar effect with a loop that is much cleaner. It's not the fact it is unworkable because it does work, its just I didn't want a version of haunted deck / rising card that is a lot less clean than almost everything that came before phantom. |
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TuneHV Inner circle New York 2064 Posts |
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On Sep 8, 2015, Ceierry wrote: There were only a few left from the seller who listed it for $20... those sold out so now it's showing another seller at the full price. |
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reignofsound Inner circle Glasgow, UK 2200 Posts |
Will let you know if I get it or not.
I have email confirmation from them at $25 though |
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pegasus Eternal Order United Kingdom 10537 Posts |
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On Sep 8, 2015, reignofsound wrote: Thank you. I can't wait to know if you get it, or not. |
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mikenewman Inner circle Kent Island, Maryland 1114 Posts |
When I had mine for a few minutes.. It didn't work well at all. It kept slowing down, and wouldn't retract smooth at all. Just as in any product, there will be defective ones. There was another person on here that had issues as well I believe. I am curious if anyine else has issues? Actually I don't care. I am just glad that I wasn't the only one that doesn't like this.
I retuned it for full refund. I have to admit, the new demo does look much better. I would fall for it again, if I didn't know any better. |
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reignofsound Inner circle Glasgow, UK 2200 Posts |
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On Sep 8, 2015, pegasus wrote: That was meant for normative This place is too funny at times. Every one sarky as f*$k :) |
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markhitton Special user 964 Posts |
Good performance but not convincing
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Fire Starter Inner circle 4810 Posts |
Has this site been hacked or was?,i kept getting some page up earlier on this thread ,some Saver thing?.
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Bill08 Special user Montreal 719 Posts |
I don't think there is any rationale for pre-ordering. If the creator has already approached dealers and everyone is keen on releasing the product, then raising money for manufacturing should not be an issue. As for the argument that a really great trick might end up sold-out, when something is selling strong it is only a matter of time before more are produced. My gut feeling is that pre-ordering exists as a means of selling a lot of product before any real world reviews roll in. In what way does it benefit the consumer?
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Dr Spektor Eternal Order Carcanis 10781 Posts |
Well, I got it. I was really waiting for the miracle to happen - but it didn't.
They should have at least made it WRITE..... I mean, at least add some darn ink. ... Everyone said it was 007 style - but I think the closest thing was Red Grant's garrotte watch - and that was WAYYYYYYYYY better in design - you could even tell the time....
"They are lean and athirst!!!!"
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gtx magic Special user United Kingdom England 954 Posts |
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On Sep 9, 2015, Dr Spektor wrote: Dr Spektor Can we take that as a not recommended. And would yourself not perform this to others. Thanks Graham
Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
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pegasus Eternal Order United Kingdom 10537 Posts |
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On Sep 8, 2015, reignofsound wrote: Too late now. I will not sleep until I know this piece of junk has arrived safely in your hands. |
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daniltan Elite user 477 Posts |
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On Sep 9, 2015, Dr Spektor wrote: That would be Phantom ver2.0 |
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Dr Spektor Eternal Order Carcanis 10781 Posts |
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On Sep 8, 2015, gtx magic wrote: hmmm I see I was not clear... so I shall say this: NOT RECOMMENDED. NEVER WILL I USE IT I have contacted Penguin and fall upon their mercy - maybe I can get a download out of their kindness / pity as we all suffer together... As for the other dealers - where are you now? Well, as Pat Colney has tattooed upon her arm - CAVEAT EMPTOR IDEA: At some magic conference we should all bring these with us and do some sort of Phantom demos - they must all flash the mechanisms, be akward, and never work correctly... we can have bottles not spin.... big globs of goo sticking out of things and such.... Special Anger: This product name has denigrated the word phantom.... and I like that word. We need to make a new product /item with this term to save the word!
"They are lean and athirst!!!!"
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pelicantrapper Regular user VA 193 Posts |
The video looked good. Still don't know what to think about this.
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pelicantrapper Regular user VA 193 Posts |
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On Sep 8, 2015, Fire Starter wrote: This was happening to me as well. Not anymore though. Also, why is it that creators always have time to shoot a dvd /instructional video with a camera, but when we need a live performance the only available camera is an Iphone? |
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Slackerking Special user 613 Posts |
At this point, anyone who buys this and is still disappointed has no one to blame but themselves.
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CarlMcCoy Elite user 465 Posts |
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On Sep 8, 2015, Fire Starter wrote: It appears so...randomly happens to me on random threads about once a month. Doesn't seem to matter what browser I use either, although it's more prevalent on Chrome. Annoying. |
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dynamite magic shop New user Netherlands 24 Posts |
I know Peter very well for many years, he is an honoust guy and the last thing he will do is selling you a product that cannot be used in real performance or as is shown on a video. Magicians look at methods, which is wrong, you should look at the effect.
I think the problem is not in the pen but in the magicians head. In my opinion there are two kinds (maybe even more) kinds of magicians, roughly said: 1-The kind who perform magic professionally, they will see the possibilities and work an effect in their act and think about that. Because the make an ACT and a story to it there is a natural misdirection which makes almost every effect in the real world. These performers write their acts, think carefully about what to use and work on it. They often choose the EFFECT first and then choose which method they use to establish the effect. After the act is ready and tested and polished often in an excisting act they start using it. These people already ARE magicians as they do what a magician should do.....it is a real job en involves way more then buy a trick and put it onl youtube and show how good (ahum) you are 2-The kind who buy tricks, unpack it, watch the dvd, perform the trick as it is, get caught by their family as there is no act, no story and therefore no misdirection and therefore blame the trick from being poor. After they placed some orders online they put up a website and name themselves "magician". Don't get me wrong, I am not saying there are no poor magic effects but I can tell you (I demonstrate magic for over 16 years and do shows for over 25 years) that the most poor effects can be turned into miracles if performed well. Now, in which category would you put yourself...and if you wanted to book a magician...which type of the two would you book? Does that make sense? Just to think about René |
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Dazzler UK Regular user UK 108 Posts |
It appeared to be a notorious browser hijacker, like the above post mentioned it doesn't matter what browser is running i.e. chrome, explorer etc. Apparently if a users equipment is infected it can do further damage if you're not protected properly. I would suggest running some scans to check for viruses and malware to anyone who has experienced this recently.
There are two rules for success..... 1. Never reveal everything you know.
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