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World magic shop review on phantom.



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Merchant of Magic are now sending an extra video to everyone that ordered Phantom, if they are having some problems in performing one of the effects. The video makes it really easy to overcome.

If you purchased Phantom from MoM and are still not getting on with it, remember you have a full year to return it and choose something else instead. So far out of all the units sold, we have only had 3% return rate, but I wanted to make sure you are 100% happy with the magic you order from the shop.

Wishing you the best
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On Sep 17, 2015, Dominic Reyes wrote:
Merchant of Magic are now sending an extra video to everyone that ordered Phantom, if they are having some problems in performing one of the effects. The video makes it really easy to overcome.

If you purchased Phantom from MoM and are still not getting on with it, remember you have a full year to return it and choose something else instead. So far out of all the units sold, we have only had 3% return rate, but I wanted to make sure you are 100% happy with the magic you order from the shop.

Wishing you the best
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That's a good deal and the right thing to do.
Glad you are doing this, and I am glad to know this for the future.

This may be too nosy, but have any of those been returned due to defectiveness?

Thanks for the info
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On Sep 17, 2015, Dominic Reyes wrote:
Merchant of Magic are now sending an extra video to everyone that ordered Phantom, if they are having some problems in performing one of the effects. The video makes it really easy to overcome.

If you purchased Phantom from MoM and are still not getting on with it, remember you have a full year to return it and choose something else instead. So far out of all the units sold, we have only had 3% return rate, but I wanted to make sure you are 100% happy with the magic you order from the shop.

Wishing you the best
Dominic



That's a good deal and the right thing to do.
Glad you are doing this, and I am glad to know this for the future.

This may be too nosy, but have any of those been returned due to defectiveness?

Thanks for the info


Hi Mike
I just asked Ben at the shop. Looks like we have only had 3 returned defective, one of which the customer simply wanted a replacement as they like the product. I don't know why/if they were actually defective though, the warehouse just throws the item in the returns bin and give the customer what they ask for, so I don't have data on that sorry.

The product doesn't need to be defective for it to be returned though, you can pop it back if you simply feel you will not use it. I'd rather customers got something they will find useful.

Hope this helps
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So has this now changed anyone's opinion ?
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Andy, at 'The Jerx', offered a good system for precisely the problem that has cropped up on this thread. You might want to give it a look (it really is a good idea):

https://thejerx.squarespace.com/blog/201......purchase

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Andy, at 'The Jerx', offered a good system for precisely the problem that has cropped up on this thread. You might want to give it a look (it really is a good idea):
https://thejerx.squarespace.com/blog/201......purchase


In 'The Jerx Purchasing Principle', the article talks of "Impulse Price Point". It gives examples and suggestions we have all known and have learnt the hard way over the years. Innumerable times we have been fooled/cheated/bluffed/lied by the creator and their distributors & boys school supporters. And to add to the misery (which I and many of us have personally experienced), we find that any honest negative review (written with due logic, reasoning and with firsthand practical experience) that doesn’t suit the creator/distributor get mercilessly deleted. Hence I will say, it is NOT the 'Impulse Price Point' that is relevant here but rather it is the 'Impulse Purchase' that becomes much more relevant.

Impulse purchase is nothing but the desire to be the FIRST to get the new release. Invariably even the much seasoned performer falls into this 'Impulse Purchase' trap. So it isn't the Impulse Price Point that matters but it is our Impulse Purchase that plays a big role while taking a decision on any new magic release as we magicians are a highly inquisitive and impatient species. So one must try and control their Impulse Purchase and one shall be happy.

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For anyone else still on the fence, I hope this helps

Creator: Peter Eggink
Publisher: Empty Hand Productions
MSRP: $35
Skill Level: all
DVD Run time: 35 minutes

Type of effect: Invisible Trick Realizer

Manufacturer's Write Up:

ALWAYS be ready to Astonish...

"Phantom" is a specially engendered utility gimmick that you'll carry with you everywhere you go. This new secret weapon allows you to perform killer effects such as the "Haunted Deck" and "Rising Card" like NEVER before. Use ANY deck, ANY time at ANY place, WITHOUT gimmicked cards, Sleight of hand, etc. Perform authentic miracles on the spot using BORROWED items! You are going to LOVE this gimmick!

Other effects include: Catch a "Ghost" in a BORROWED bottle and watch the bottle EERILY and MAGICALLY unscrew itself from the cap! Then, Hand the ENTIRE thing out for examination.

The gimmick is invisible to the spectator's eye and is easy & totally FUN to perform!

Key Points:
NO Invisible Thread!
NO Loops!
NO Elastics!
NO Skill!
NO Magnets!
All borrowed items!
Easy to do with ZERO sleight of hand!
ALWAYS ready to go!
Instant reset!
Extremely well made gimmick!

Comes complete with the special "Phantom" gimmick along with an HD streaming instructional video, showcasing different routines, ideas and performance tips

How accurate is the ad copy? the add copy can say what it says, because it can't' say what it is - I can't even show you the effect, or hint at what it's "sister utility device" is because THAT would give it away. I just think that if the add copy were more HONEST - then the RIGHT people could purchase this, rather than be vague and have people "guess" as to if they could use this or not.

In the video Peter says that these tricks are done "without card gimmicks or invisible thread." I just don't think that's being fair. It's a half truth. Of course there is a gimmick. Of course there is a "hidden element" (but we just can't use the word "invisible" or "thread") Not to mention that all the effects in the video are shot from a tight angle as to exclude the "clearly seen" gimmick in the actual performance. (The Genie in the Bottle performance is shot from underneath!)

What's in the box? The gimmick and a link to a streaming VIMEO instruction

How are the production values: Top notch, all shot in HD, great angles and

Is it well made: Very well made, with care could last you a very long time.

Is it well taught: very meticulous teaching, I think Peter does everything he can to
ensure you learn how to do all of the effects presented in the video. On the video you learn 4 effects, The Rising Card, the Haunted Deck, Genie in a Bottle (unscrewing bottlecap) and a "Phantom Vanish" which is Peter's take on a retention vanish with a coin.

Storage? Does it "pack flat?" The utility can be easily carried on your person and will "match" similar objects standard to a magician.

Does it "play big?" These "haunted" style effects get very big reactions. This is a very creative utility and I can easily see more of these "spirit move" tricks done with it. As Peter points out in his teaching, the "utility" even though it's visible in all of your performances can go by unseen by the spectator so long as it has a purpose. However, the fact that it IS SEEN - can draw heat to it, especially if you do two consecutive effects with it.

How practical is this in the real world? (can it really be done?) I think it can be a very practical idea, I'd be curious how it works in different lighting conditions - that said I think that for specifically rising card and the haunted deck - LOOPS are a more practical and more "invisible" utility. Of the 4 effects - the Genie in a bottle trick is the only effect exclusive to this gimmick.

How original is this idea? Both the haunted deck and the rising card can be performed with LOOPS and both can be performed with a borrowed deck with no advanced set up. A retention vanish can be done with only sleight of hand, and no complicated gimmick is needed.

Overall score: 8/10

+ If you want to see my full review with even more of my opinions and ideas you can visit this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSnRimNtaLM
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That reminds me of this.... especially around the 50 second mark in the video....

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How do you fix ? when the gimmick got separate?
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I don't have this , but if this gimmick works exactly as Hole , then fixing it is possible and will not be very difficult .
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Peter... have you gotten your updated video done?
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On Sep 6, 2015, TuneHV wrote:
You guys are being too harsh. Comparing this to Change? Worst trick ever? Far from it, just suffers from some overhype and misleading ad copy / demo. We expected something else, and in that regard it didn't deliver... But the product itself is not as bad as this thread makes it sound- just not for everyone or the answer we were all hoping it to be.



"JUST suffers from ... misleading ad copy." That isn't bad enough for you that they lied in the advertising?
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So I feel as if I have to ad my two cents here, though so many have said it already. First, thread is thread, period. Was there a technical difference, yes. Was the use of that technical difference slimy, very much so. Second, if as Mr. Eggink says, having the marker in your hand is totally natural and motivated (which I agree can be true), then why doesn't he show that in the video? Is it the worst product ever? I doubt it. I've been buying magic for 40 years and used to get some really crappy fox lake stuff. Is it the most deceptive advertising? It is way up there in the top echelon, not a place I would want to be if I cared about my reputation. I can't recommend the product to anyone, not because of the gimmick, but because you are giving money to support dishonest advertising practices.
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