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kambiz Inner circle Perth, down by the cool of the pool 1129 Posts 
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On Sep 23, 2015, Dannydoyle wrote: Not sure, but I sure know that the current bunch who are making those decisions are not in it for service of others but for the promotion of their own status and position in society Quote:
All of this of course assumes everyone is of equal value. We ae all born equal. No baby is more valuable than another. Education is the variable, and the cause of differences in human value being developed... Kam
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And if I write, many a pen will break. .....and when I consider my own self, lo, I find it coarser than clay! |
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NYCTwister Loyal user 267 Posts
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On Sep 23, 2015, kambiz wrote: Exactly! Now you're getting it.
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S2000magician Inner circle Yorba Linda, CA 3465 Posts
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On Sep 23, 2015, NYCTwister wrote: So . . . if I steal your car I have a right to it because I possess it? |
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NYCTwister Loyal user 267 Posts
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On Sep 23, 2015, S2000magician wrote: If you're messing with me.....then .....you're killing me. 
If not then, no, because the essence of what I am can't be stolen and still be what it is. Not to mention that cars aren't sentient. They don't know they exist or care what happens to them, so the analogy doesn't hold. If you're thinking about the slavery aspects then we get into what your life is worth to you, which brings us back to the beginning.
If you need fear to enforce your beliefs, then your beliefs are worthless.
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S2000magician Inner circle Yorba Linda, CA 3465 Posts
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On Sep 23, 2015, NYCTwister wrote: I'm just pointing out that there's more to having a right to something than merely possessing it. You've hit upon some of the reasons that mere possession is insufficient. |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21263 Posts
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My car is almost sentient I swear.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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kambiz Inner circle Perth, down by the cool of the pool 1129 Posts
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On Sep 23, 2015, NYCTwister wrote: And you don't see injustice in that? Kam
If I speak forth, many a mind will shatter,
And if I write, many a pen will break. .....and when I consider my own self, lo, I find it coarser than clay! |
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kambiz Inner circle Perth, down by the cool of the pool 1129 Posts
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On Sep 23, 2015, Dannydoyle wrote: LOL..... Kam
If I speak forth, many a mind will shatter,
And if I write, many a pen will break. .....and when I consider my own self, lo, I find it coarser than clay! |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21263 Posts
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The question of equality I have is do you propose everyone has less until things are equal?
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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kambiz Inner circle Perth, down by the cool of the pool 1129 Posts
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On Sep 24, 2015, Dannydoyle wrote: No. The elimination of all extremities is what matters here....from my perspective at least... Kam
If I speak forth, many a mind will shatter,
And if I write, many a pen will break. .....and when I consider my own self, lo, I find it coarser than clay! |
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Intrepid Inner circle Silver Spring, MD 1183 Posts
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On Sep 23, 2015, kambiz wrote: I'm sure you're familiar with the various "Nature vs Nurture" studies.
Bob
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21263 Posts
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On Sep 24, 2015, kambiz wrote: So you want to take from some in order to give to others?
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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NYCTwister Loyal user 267 Posts
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On Sep 23, 2015, S2000magician wrote: Agreed, and as a result, throughout human history, millions have died, defenseless. That doesn't change the fact that being a human, on this earth, at ANYTIME, is a special thing. If THAT isn't the basic premise then why have ANY conversations? Well, a fact so long as anything matters. When people die, as they have died, and continue to die, for no seemingly no reason; it's THEN that their absolute human rights were violated, and are being violated. Of course on a cosmic scale, the concept of human rights, absolute or otherwise, are probably a joke.
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kambiz Inner circle Perth, down by the cool of the pool 1129 Posts
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On Sep 24, 2015, Dannydoyle wrote: There is no taking in what I am proposing. The only "taking" that is happening is in the system that you are currently living in. The tax systems of the world are taking money from your pocket in order to give housing and money for the unemployed. You currently live by the rule "take from some in order to give to others" Kam
If I speak forth, many a mind will shatter,
And if I write, many a pen will break. .....and when I consider my own self, lo, I find it coarser than clay! |
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NYCTwister Loyal user 267 Posts
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On Sep 24, 2015, kambiz wrote: No. Because I live on this Earth. The way it is. Today.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21263 Posts
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On Sep 24, 2015, kambiz wrote: Then what do you propose?
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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kambiz Inner circle Perth, down by the cool of the pool 1129 Posts
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On Sep 24, 2015, Dannydoyle wrote: I propose we try something different and see how it goes..... What we currently have is not working.... What I propose has been debated for eons on threads here similar to this. I will not bring religion into it, but religion has a role to play.... Kam
If I speak forth, many a mind will shatter,
And if I write, many a pen will break. .....and when I consider my own self, lo, I find it coarser than clay! |
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NYCTwister Loyal user 267 Posts
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On Sep 24, 2015, Dannydoyle wrote: A lot of cotton candy.
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kambiz Inner circle Perth, down by the cool of the pool 1129 Posts
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On Sep 24, 2015, NYCTwister wrote: Next question. If your mother was to be raped and tortured on the way to getting her daily water supply (imaginary situation) would you see it as an injustice? Kam
If I speak forth, many a mind will shatter,
And if I write, many a pen will break. .....and when I consider my own self, lo, I find it coarser than clay! |
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kambiz Inner circle Perth, down by the cool of the pool 1129 Posts
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On Sep 24, 2015, NYCTwister wrote: Better than dirty rocks.... Kam
If I speak forth, many a mind will shatter,
And if I write, many a pen will break. .....and when I consider my own self, lo, I find it coarser than clay! |
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